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Making 35 Whelen from 30-06?
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I have been doing some research, and will likely try it later tonight, but thought I'd ask some experienced reloaders. Creating 35 Wh. from 30-06, can it be done easily? What are the main steps. Any places for info on this would be great.

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Brian

 
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Generally speaking, necking brass "up" is not quite as satisfactory as necking "down". I consider going from .30 to .35 caliber just about the limit. You might experience some neck splits, if not on expanding, then perhaps on first firing, if the brass is not amply ductile. But don't get it too soft by over-annealing -- it will just collapse when you try to run the expander into it.

By all means, obtain a tapered expander rather than trying to use the regular expander "ball" which comes with the die. This will make a lot of difference.

 
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Thanks

Maybe I'll spring the $60 or so bucks and get a couple hundred new pieces...I am planning a project on an Eddystone, going from 06 to 35. I have quite a bit of brass in 30-06, thought I could get away with using it.

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Brian

 
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Redding makes tapered expanders for the resize die. I'd consider purchasing 2 of them, on to go from .30 to .338, and another for .338 to .358. You'd probably lose fewer cases to neck splits if you neck up in a 2-step process.

If your brass is too hard and the neck grabs the expander and collapses into the shoulder during the neck-up operation, you may have to anneal the necks prior to neck-up. I have some brand-new Winchester 22-250 brass that sustained a 40% loss rate necking up to 250 Savage until I annealed the necks. Now I only lose one infrequently.

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I have necked up quite a bit of 06 brass to .35 , it seems to be no problem at all with the eliptical expander on my Hornaday dies.

Have not lost one new case yet and only a very few out of old used 06 cases .....

 
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BJK, I, too, have reformed '06 to Whelan, using some old G.I. brass that came to me well used in the '60s (DEN 42, BN 3-40, UT42 and others). I also neck up more than .35 in order to form a false shoulder for fire forming. Very few cases lost!
Try it, you'll like it!
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I have necked up 308 to 358 Winchester by placing NEW loaded rounds (308) in my Remington 700 and pulled the trigger. I have never lost a case and the fire-forming is complete. My gunsmith told me to do it this way and I must say I was a bit hesitant but you can't argue with success.

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My RCBS .35 Whelen dies came with the tapered expander.

Originally, I bought 50 new Remington .35 Whelen brass of which two neck-split on the first re-sizing.

Now,I use only once fired .30-06 brass of any make. Just ensure the cases are well lubed and run them into the die fairily fast.

I've even tried .270 Winchester brass through the Whelen die with no problem with splitting. I didn't use the re-sized cases, it was just an experiment.

I once inadvertantly fired a .30-06 round in my Whelen. I didn't hit the target(paper) but I had a perfectly formed Whelen case.

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I have used new Winchester 06 brass and have not lost one case.

Even once fired 06 has not split. I use RCBS dies and Lube.

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Lube inside of neck, and run through fl die, thats about all there is to it. I've done a few hundred -06 cases, as well as a smidgeon of 270 cases. The Lee dies have a nice tapered expander that works well.
 
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Although not a 35 Whn, I used 270 brass for my 338-06AI, with no problems. I used a taper expander.
I would imagine this is sort of like going from 30 to 35, but from 27 to 33. Using 270 brass give ne better headspace to fire form. ~~~Suluuq
 
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