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25 May 2006, 03:34
polar
swift bullets
I have got my hands on some 225 gr swift A-Frame bullets in .358.
Can enybody tell me what the Swift Reloading Manual say about reloading this for .35 whelen?
(does the manual have Vihtavuori powder?)
25 May 2006, 03:54
Jay Johnson
According to the Sierra Manual 5th Edition N140 looks like your powder. 51.3 to 57.8 Max. with the 225 bullet. Gets you near 2700 fps that's smoking for a 35 Whelen. Is it a bolt gun?
25 May 2006, 05:27
polar
thanks a lot.
Yes it is a Sauer 202 boltrifle, whit a Douglas barrel.
25 May 2006, 05:50
vapodog
quote:
Originally posted by Jay Johnson:
According to the Sierra Manual 5th Edition N140 looks like your powder. 51.3 to 57.8 Max. with the 225 bullet. Gets you near 2700 fps that's smoking for a 35 Whelen. Is it a bolt gun?


N-140 sure looks to be the powder of choice.

The Hornady manual also shows it to be excellent.

You don't need Swift data for their bullets....as long as you work up you can use data for almost any 225 grain bullet.

BTW I think 2,700 is a bit optimistic with 225 grain bullets but you won't know until you work it up.


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25 May 2006, 06:55
Jay Johnson
quote:
Originally posted by vapodog:
BTW I think 2,700 is a bit optimistic with 225 grain bullets but you won't know until you work it up.


Vapodog

That is probably right a little optimistic. But if polar has access to a chronograph I sure would like to hear from him when the results are in on that load. I haven't personally used it.
25 May 2006, 08:18
vapodog
quote:
Originally posted by Jay Johnson:
quote:
Originally posted by vapodog:
BTW I think 2,700 is a bit optimistic with 225 grain bullets but you won't know until you work it up.


Vapodog

That is probably right a little optimistic. But if polar has access to a chronograph I sure would like to hear from him when the results are in on that load. I haven't personally used it.

Jay...it seems 2,700 in a 338-06 and 225 grain bullet is a commonly found result in the reloading manuals. One should think it's also achieveable for the 35 Whelen......but the manuals I have seen just don't show it.

Some things we just accept and move on .....some (like this one) cause me to scratch my head a lot. It should be achievable.....

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25 May 2006, 08:28
vapodog
Here's a bunch of data fired in a Remington 700 bolt rifle 24"

225 Sierra spitzer boat-tail IMR IMR-3031 51.0 2,427
Remarks: case: R-P; primer: R-9 1/2; very accurate
225 Sierra spitzer boat-tail IMR IMR-3031 53.0 2,517
Remarks: case: R-P; primer: R-9 1/2; maximum, accurate
225 Sierra spitzer boat-tail Hodgdon H-4895 53.0 2,511
Remarks: case: R-P; primer: R-9 1/2; most accurate load
225 Sierra spitzer boat-tail Hodgdon H-4895 55.0 2,575
Remarks: case: R-P; primer: R-9 1/2
225 Sierra spitzer boat-tail Winchester W-748 55.0 2,471
Remarks: case: W-W; primer: CCI 200; poor load
225 Sierra spitzer boat-tail Winchester W-748 57.0 2,521
Remarks: case: W-W; primer: CCI 200; maximum - do NOT exceed - good load
225 Sierra spitzer boat-tail Vihtavuori VV-N140 55.0 2,427
Remarks: case: W-W; primer: CCI 200; very accurate
225 Sierra spitzer boat-tail Vihtavuori VV-N140 57.0 2,505
Remarks: case: W-W; primer: CCI 200; accurate
225 Nosler Partition Accurate AAC-2460 52.0 2,436
Remarks: case: R-P; primer: CCI 200
225 Nosler Partition Accurate AAC-2520 53.0 2,448
Remarks: case: R-P; primer: CCI 200; sixth best accuracy
225 Nosler Partition Alliant RL-15 54.0 2,431
Remarks: case: R-P; primer: CCI 200
225 Nosler Partition Alliant RL-15 56.0 2,513
Remarks: case: R-P; primer: CCI 200; very accurate
225 Nosler Partition Hodgdon BL-C(2) 57.0 2,555
Remarks: case: R-P; primer: CCI 200; best all-around load, very accurate
225 Nosler Partition Accurate AAC-2700 60.0 2,491
Remarks: case: R-P; primer: CCI 200
225 Northern Precision Poly-Ball Accurate AAC-2230 50.0 2,414
Remarks: case: W-W; primer: CCI 200; good load
225 Northern Precision Poly-Ball Accurate AAC-2230 51.0 2,459
Remarks: case: W-W; primer: CCI 200
225 Northern Precision Poly-Ball Hodgdon H-4895 54.0 2,544
Remarks: case: W-W; primer: CCI 200; maximum, second best accuracy
225 Northern Precision Poly-Ball IMR IMR-4064 55.5 2,512
Remarks: case: W-W; primer: CCI 200
225 Northern Precision Poly-Ball Alliant RL-15 56.0 2,549
Remarks: case: W-W; primer: CCI 200; good load


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25 May 2006, 20:50
CMcDermott
Swift's manual doesn't list any loads with VV powders, or any loads with 2700 fps velocity for the 225 grain A-frame in the 35 Whelan. The Vihtavuori website manual doesn't list any loads for the 35 Whelan.

BL-C(2) start 56.3, max 60.5; highest velocity listed at 2623 fps
RL-15 start 54.4, max 58.5, 2601 fps lowest std dev.