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Has anybody tried the Barnes Originals in 7mm or 30 cal? I was wondering how fast these can go in a 7mm MAG and 30-06 and how well they perform on big game like elk or moose. Thanks.
 
Posts: 184 | Location: Missouri | Registered: 15 November 2000Reply With Quote
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Sean... The .049 jacket in the .308 might work ok on elk but I couldnt speek for the 7mm. I dont much care for bullets that bleed there cores out when there are so many other good bullets out there. If you recover one from game... and it hasnt lost its core... section one and you will see what I mean. The core will slip from the heal and bleed out through the mushroom. from the outside it will look like an ordinary expanded bullet but the core will be little more then a wafer. This occurs less with the larger calibers and more moderate velocity rounds. Also... if this is a concern of yours... you might experiance heavy copper fouling. If you are interested in these types of bullets... try the Hawk labs... they cost I bit more but come in more variations and I have found them to shoot better.
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Posts: 2045 | Location: West most midwestern town. | Registered: 13 June 2001Reply With Quote
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Hey Sean, The Barns Originals (made by Fred Barnes prior to Randy Brooks buying the place) were excellent bullets. Not real sure how much Game I've killed with them, but I "never" recovered one. They always exited on the Deer Hogs and Bears that I shot with them.

Deer and Hogs killed with both 7mm and 30cal, Bears with 35cal.

I do agree with smallfry that they do leave copper in the barrel quickly, or they used to. Normally 6 shots from the bench and it was time to scrub the barrel with JB Compound. I've not tried them Moly Coated, but they are setting on the shelf ready to go whenever I do decide to try them.

Good news is I can't remember ever putting a single Barnes Original in any of those critters and then needing a second shot. So, as far as using them in the field goes, the barrel fouling is not an issue, or it wasn't for me.

The only ones I've seen for sale recently are the extremely heavy-for-caliber ones. Some caliber rifles just can't stabalize them, so don't buy a bunch until you know they will work in your rifle.

If on the other hand you have located a Shop somewhere with some "old" boxes of standard weights, you may have located a treasure.

I don't waste the Originals I have left on Whitetails, since so many other bulets work great on them. But I'll be ready whenever the North Carolina Elk Season opens with some 200gr 35cal 0.032" Jacket Originals in my 350RemMag. They will kill any Elk I ever decide to shoot and do it well.
 
Posts: 9920 | Location: Carolinas, USA | Registered: 22 April 2001Reply With Quote
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You would be way better off using Woodleighs and they make big heavy round nose and spitzer bullets for most calibers and they always work picture perfect. they have a bonded core.

the Barnes origingals never opened very well for me at long range, but worked well up close. They are very thick in the nose section.
 
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