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Friend shooting a 6 x 61 Sharpes & Hart, really looked hard and I can't find load data anywhere. Any links to published sources much appreciated.......thanks, r in s.
 
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I will qualify my response by saying I don't consider myself a "pro" but loading for wildcats has been a hobby/obsession for close to 20 years.

A 6x61 S&H is most closely related to the .240 Wby (6x63)

240 Wby data should be much easier to find. Just need to realize the 6x61 has slightly less case capacity.


 
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Ray; you can measure the case capacity of a fired case and use one of the balistic programs to recommend a powder and starting load, then work up as usual. I looked in most everthing I have printed and came up with nothinbg, good luck.
 
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A 6x61 S&H is most closely related to the .240 Wby (6x63)

I thought the 6x61 S&H was the 7x61 necked down. If that is the case the capacity would be around 10grs greater than the 240Wby.


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you might try to PM Jorgen for a reply....he may not read this as he posts mostly in gunsmithing....

He does in fact know a little bit about the Schultz and Larson chamberings.....he owns the company in Denmark!


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I would fill an empty case with water. Measure its weight in grains.

Find a similarly configured case perferably of a slighty lesser capacity.

Reduce the minimum load of the smaller case by 10%. Work uo in 1/2 grain incrments until you see signs of pressure or a reasonable velocity.

At your first sign of pressure, back off a full grain at a minimum.


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Originally posted by ramrod340:
I thought the 6x61 S&H was the 7x61 necked down. If that is the case the capacity would be around 10grs greater than the 240Wby.


I stand corrected.

240 Wby has a belt, but is a std 0.473" case head, not 0.532" belted mag case head.

My bad . . . . Roll Eyes


 
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Friend shooting a 6 x 61 Sharpes & Hart, really looked hard and I can't find load data anywhere. Any links to published sources much appreciated.......thanks, r in s.


There's load data for it in Ackley's Handbook for Shooters and Reloders, Vol I. If you can't find a copy local, LMK and I'll send you the data.
 
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