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I know that any petroleum product is a killer, what about temprature and humidity changes? Tact is for people not witty enough to use sarcasm. | ||
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Don't count on a petroleum product as being a sure killer. FYI, I've boxes of primers perhaps 10 years old that have merely been stored on a shelf in my reloading shed that are still fine. Aim for the exit hole | |||
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I've soaked primers with water, WD40, mineral spirits and other "killers". Drained and dried, the majority of them still went bang. Best storage is in a cool dry place. | |||
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We bought a bunch of reloading gear small, large and magnum pistol primers all had price tags of like $5 and $10 per case so that is about twenty years old and they work just fine out of all my loads. www.KLStottlemyer.com Deport the Homeless and Give the Illegals citizenship. AT LEAST THE ILLEGALS WILL WORK | |||
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I''m still using some of my Dads that are at least 40 years old. Probably wouldn't use them for that one shot at an elephant but so far no failures out of several thousand | |||
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An unfired primer is like an unloaded firearm--treat them both as LIVE AND DANGEROUS!!! ALWAYS! | |||
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The only sure primer killer is a firing pin! Graybird "Make no mistake, it's not revenge he's after ... it's the reckoning." | |||
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I recently used the last of one of my favorite primers, a large batch of RWS Sinoxids date stamped 1972. I had never taken any special precautions in storing them, and they had bounced around from house to house to storage shed to newly-built dedicated reloading room without suffering any change in performance in 38 years. I still have a few Herter's (Made in Japan) SR primers which were purchased in 1968 just prior to the 1968 GCA going into effect. They work as well as the freshest primers straight from the store. The only duds I've ever had were some ancient Peters primers (do you realize how long it's been since they labeled any primers as "Peters"?) which had sat primed in unloaded .30-06 cases sitting in a reloading tray on a dusty shelf for years. About every fifth one didn't ignite on the first firing pin fall, or exhibited a detectable hang fire (that'll get your attention!) | |||
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Not to hijack this thread and having never bought a primer prior to January '71, what did GCA 68 have to do with it? Or are you just using that as a timeline reference? | |||
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Provided those conditions aren't sever, primers don't go bad least wise within my life span . As others I've got primers which came in wooden boxes and are corrosive mercuric ,still work without problems !. Although I don't use them much any more because of cleaning procedures in which to remove the salt residues . Firing pin is an excellent tool for older primers or a hazardous waste disposal facility , burning also renders them inert however I PERSONALLY DON'T RECOMMEND ANY OF YOU DOING THE LATTER !!!.  Covered my Azz !.  | |||
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GCA 68 basicly put Herters out of busness. | |||
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http://www.go2gbo.com/forums/i...?topic=213667.0;wap2 | |||
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FWIW, they are still selling milsup ammo dating back to WW2 that has been stored under who knows what kind of conditions and it still (pretty much) goes bang. Aim for the exit hole | |||
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The original interpretation of the 1968 GCA was since it limited the purchase of "rifle" ammunition (and components) to persons of at least 18 years of age and "handgun" ammunition and components to persons of at least 21 years of age, that ammunition and components could not be shipped directly to consumers but had to be shipped to an FFL holder, just like a firearm. Therefore reloaders scrambled in 1968 to stock up from their customary discount mail order sources before the act went into effect. Later, the Department of Treasury revisited this subject and reinterpreted the rules to allow shipping components (brass, bullets, powder, and primers) directly to the consumer so long as the consumer presented the seller with evidence of age of majority (copy of a driver's license, for example). To my knowledge, no one seems to care much about this any more and only a few "mail order" sellers require evidence of age in order to ship to a buyer. | |||
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Thanks for the history lesson guys. I never dealt with Herters, (for some reason I thought they only sold things like duck decoys??) or perhaps they went out of business before I started buying components from other than local sources. I don't have any primers left from '71 but I do have some Remington *57 shotshell primers from the mid 70's. As a matter of fact, just to use them up as I don't have any 16ga shotshells that use the *57's anymore, I have been using them in my CVA inline muzzleloader. They still go bang. | |||
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Herters sold everything!!! To a young lad, reading their catalog was next best thing to going on safari.  It was amazing how many superlatives they could crowd into one item's description. They did have a money back guarentee that they stood behind. I had a friend that ordered some cock necks (for fly tying) and wasn't satisfied with the quality. He sent them a letter (he kept the necks) asking that next time he ordered, he'd like a little better quality. They sent him a letter of apology, a new order of necks, and a full refund. Aim for the exit hole | |||
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I still pull my forty year-old Herter's catalog out of the bookcase on occasion and can flip through the pages for hours in total fascination. If it could be duplicated, copied, or counterfeited, Herter's would make it an sell it -- and at a pretty good price with passable quality. Nothing they sold was original except for the B.S. that went with it, but the B.S. was one-of-a-kind. On second thought, Herter's was pretty original on its decoys and some of its special lines. Those bird feathers for fly tying (along with greatly reduced sales volume due to the 1968 GCA) were their ultimate downfall. It seems that some of their feather suppliers were skirting USF&W regs on endangered or protected species and Herter's took a fall along with them. | |||
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Why would you want to ruin primers when they are so expensive these days? If the enemy is in range, so are you. - Infantry manual | |||
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