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2500 FPS in a 9.3x62 w/ a 22 inch bbl
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Is this possible...what powder would you use?

What bullet?

Assume that i will be able to load out to mag box length.

Ray - don't answer...I know you answer stuff the case with RL-15


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What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
Posts: 10134 | Location: Loving retirement in Boise, ID | Registered: 16 December 2003Reply With Quote
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What bullet weight? I have 3 9.3x62 and have come to the conclusion that It is a very effecient cartridge. My guns have from 22" to 26" barrels and the velocity with equal loads will vary by 13.6 F.S. per inch which is nothing. I get 2685 out of my 250 X and a 22"barrel.


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Posts: 2608 | Location: Moore, Oklahoma, USA | Registered: 28 December 2003Reply With Quote
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Oh sorry guys brain fade on my part...

2500 with a 250 grn

also want to acchieve an honest 2300 with a 286 grn


Mike

Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.



What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
Posts: 10134 | Location: Loving retirement in Boise, ID | Registered: 16 December 2003Reply With Quote
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VV-N550, H414 and Re 15 have all taken the 250 gr X beyond 2500 fps in my 24" barreled FN and Husky. I used the N550 load (compressed) in Africa a few years ago. It very safely clocks at 2650 fps in the FN and was devasting on the critters.
 
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I doubt have any difficulty getting 2500 with a 250 gr bullet out of a 22" bbl.

With very moderate loads I get 2425 with 286s in a 24" bbl. (But with that darned old RL-15)


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S355 if you can get South African powder. That is 2grns below listed max.
 
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I load to operating pressures for a .270 win, and achieve 2600fps with the 250BT, 2500fps with the 270 Speer, and 2400fps with the 286gr Partition and Lapua and just slightly less with the 286 Woodleigh. I tested RL15, H4895 and Varget and concluded that Varget gave me the highest velocities with the what I concluded were the lowest pressures. The loads that I use are made in Lapua brass and I find the 210Match FC primers are sufficient and very accurate. I load my bullets so that they are seated out to just fit in the magazine of my Mauser 98 Mark X action. Approximately 3/16" is showing between the cannelure of the 250BT and the case neck. The other bullets do not exceed that OAL. Accuracy is very good, less than MOA.

When the 250BT is zeroed for 225, the Partition is approximately 2" high at 100yds and will hold a 4" circle to 175yds and the Woodleigh is approximately 1" high at 100yds will hold a 2" circle to 125yds.

I first tested the three powders mentioned, and concluded Varget seemed to reach the velocities mentioned with the least pressure. Testing loads with the bullets mentioned revealed that the high density loads I used can be reloaded at least 8 times in my rifle without signs of pressure on the case as determined by sectioning the cases. My barrel is just shy of 24" and loss per inch is approximately 25fps.
 
Posts: 1473 | Location: Tallahassee, Florida | Registered: 04 January 2005Reply With Quote
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Mike

I just worked up a 300 grn Partition round for my .376 Steyr that got a 2380 fps average for 15 shots. Book Max charge of Varget and a 20" barrel. I get 2508 avg. fps with 270 grn Hornadys also(Not a max load). Both loads measured with an Oehler 35. You shouldn't have any trouble with 2300fps/286grn or 2500/250grn as these .376 cartridges are nearly twins to the 9.3x62

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Elmo
 
Posts: 586 | Location: paloma,ca | Registered: 20 February 2002Reply With Quote
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Just as a point of reference, this is from the Nosler Ammunition web site:

9.3x62mm Mauser 250grain Ballistic Tip
VELOCITY 2550 FPS
O.A.L. 3.225"
http://www.noslerammunition.com/9362250BT.HTML

9.3x62mm Mauser 286grain Partition
VELOCITY 2430 FPS
O.A.L. 3.225"
http://www.noslerammunition.com/9362286PT.HTML


Nosler does not state the barrel length used.

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I cut my CZ 550 barrel to 22" and got 2,300 with a less-than-max charge of H4895 and a 286 Partition. 2,500 with just about any 250 should be a piece of cake. Okie John.


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