Hey. I'm brand spankin new to these forums. Hope to learn alot from yall. lemme introduce myself first...my name is matt, i'm 16, and live in SC. I just got into reloading a few weeks ago and had a few questions for .270 shooters. What are your favorite loads and what guns are they shot out of? I have a "brand new" 30 yr old Rem.700 i got off a trade and i think it was never shot when i got it. today i went to the range to try out my first loads and this is what i got the best results with:

54.0 gr. of H4831
130gr. Hornady InterLock SP
WW brass, never fired
CCI200 primers

what do you guys like to shoot. i'm fresh out of H4831 and would like to try another one or 2 powders here soon. what do you guys like? R22? give me some ideas!

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Originally posted by beretta9289:
what do you guys like to shoot. i'm fresh out of H4831 and would like to try another one or 2 powders here soon. what do you guys like? R22? give me some ideas!

Try RL22 or IMR7828

What J J said, and try some Nosler Accubonds and Ballistic tips for accuracy.

Try IMR-4350 or RL-22. With the 130s you shoot try 52gr of IMR-4350

IMO H-4831 and RL-22 are the first 2 powders you should try with a 270 Winchester. My preference is for RL-22 and 140gr Accubonds. I've had a couple 270 wins that shot very well with IMR-4831, if you try it just remember that IMR-4831 isn't the same as H-4831 and you need to use different loading data.
Your load you were using is a very moderate load and probably not a bad idea to keep using for practice if it shoots well in your gun..............DJ

i think i'm gonna go ahead and use it for deer hunting too. that's all i use it for. i think a hornady interlock will do fine hunting SC whitetails (not very big). I tried 150gr. nosler ballistic tips. how much H4831 did it take for those groups to start closing up? I have shot 53 and 54grs. of 4831 w/ the 150 bal. tips, and they don't shoot well out of my gun. is 54 enough for that heavy of a bullet? i've tried several different ammounts w/ the bal. tips and none work well at all. I'm going to not buy the nosler's since there more expensive. i can get 100 interlocks for 15 bux w/ tax, not bad. and my gun likes em.

These are the book max's for these bullets in the powders I would use

130 gr - 55 gr IMR4350
140 gr - 53.5 gr IMR4831
150 gr - 56.5 gr RL22

Ballistic Tips if you like the quick expanding bullets that expand rapidly, kill quick and ruin a lot of meat. Barnes Triple Shocks if you want a blood trail to follow and do not want to ruin a lot of meat.

Had good groups with IMR7828 and 130gr Nosler and Sierra

i don't generally take shots at the vitals or shoulders. i shoot at the neck. drops em in their tracks and not really any good meat ruined.

Hey Matt, have you purchased yourself a couple of good loading manuals yet? There is lots of good material around with good sound advice. You can also try Alliant, Hodgdon, IMR on line, these companies publish load tables free of charge. What works in my Rem. 700 may not work in yours.
Good Luck!

I've had good luck with H-4831 62.0 grains with WW brass and a Nosler BT 130 grain. High velocity and accuracy. As always you'll need to work up to the load in your rifle. JMHO

Hello Matt. I live SC also. have hunted with a 270 for many years. Always used 140gr. bullets whether factory or reloads. Used 140gr. ballistic tips until last year then switched to reloading 140gr Accubonds with H4831SC. You can buy noslers factory seconds for $11.00 a bag of 50. Go to noslers site, then go under shooters pro shop. look at reloading products.

Beretta, it's obviously not real popular, but in addition to the 4831's mentioned and the RE-22 I've had real good luck with Win 760. Like the NBT's in several weights, but my go to hunting bullet is the Accubond--140's is all they make it in.

Good Luck and welcome to AR--Don

The load you posted is a great load.....if you're running short on powder I'd recommend you get some H-4831 SC and continue loading the same load.

SC is short cut and is the same as H-4831 but a little easier to load. Load it the same as H-4831

The .270 is perfect with the 130 grain interlock and either of the 4831 powders.

I was actually planning on picking up the SC next time i get some powder. it should meter more accurately. I will try the accubonds sometime in the near future hopefully. i have a few boxes of bullets i'm testing right now. my gun is lovin the interlocks though. i also have a box of the hornady 130gr. SST's i'm gonna give a shot at. guess i'll just have to see what happens. what makes the accubond such a great hunting bullet. what kinda groups you get?

beretta, H4831 is hard to beat in the good ole' 270 win. I think you were alittle on the light side w/ your charge and may find better accuracy towards a little higher charge of the H4831 w/ those 130s.

You should be able to safely get to 58 grains and possibly 60 w/ the 130s an H4831.

If you ever want to try alittle heavier bullet, don't rule out the 150 Hdy Ils. They shot good for me out of 2 270 wins and a 270 Weatherby Mag.

Good Luck w/ your new rifle

Reloader

Hi Matt,

Welcome Aboard!

Good luck with your "New/Old" Rifle, the .270 Winchester in a good ole Remington 700 ought to be a real success story for for a young stud such as yourself.

Like Reloader I think you are on the conservative side with your .270 loads but be careful and work your loads accordingly.

I consider H-4831 one of the best, if not the best powder in .270 Winchester and while there's always room for trying other powders with H-4831 and just about any reasonable, quality brand 130-150 grain bullet you ought to get sterling accuracy and plenty of down range punch for those South Carolina Whitetails!

reloader...once i get some more powder, i will load up some heavier charges, but right now it seems that the best will be in between 54.0 and 54.5gr. of H4831. Those where the 2 best targets i got, and the 54.5gr. load put 4 shots all touching, with the 5th shot about 1/4 in. away. i began testing by .5gr increments, and i'm going to try 54.1-54.4 increasing by .1gr. increments. hopefully one of those will be "the one". when i load those up, i'll also load some heavier charges. I can go up to 62.0 grains, and being is how i like more power, if i can get good accuracy with more power, than MORE POWER it is. i just need to get a LITTLE more money so i can go ahead and snag me a bottle of powder. maybe i can sell somethin on ebay...lol

I can vouch for the 130 TSX ahead of 57 grains of Rel #19 and a Fed 210GM primer in W-W case- chronos right at 3000 fps frm my 23" barrel and no pressure signs whatsoever, accuracy usually under one inch, barrel cleaned aever 20 or so rounds, no real fouling problems

AMEN!!! H4831sc is the cat's pajamas for reloads!!
LLS

is the TSX a barnes bullet?

Earlier today I shot 7 different reloads (5 shots each) from my M700 270 Win (24"barrel), trying to find the load my rifle likes best. Tried IMR 4350, IMR 4831, and RL22 - all with 130gr NPs. RL22 did worse than expected, and IMR4831 failed to group as well as two different IMR4350 loads. The best two groups came from 54gr IMR4350 and 55gr IMR4350. All with WLR primers and WW cases.

For your more knowledgable folks - any idea as to FPS for these loads? I don't have a chrono!

1. 54gr IMR4350, 24" tube?
2. 55gr " "

Thanks

Beretta, most folks are referring to the Barnes triple X or triple shock x bullet when saying 'TSX'

The triple shocks or "XXX" as I like to call em, is hell for accurate, they shoot out of everything I try them in, and with a lot of different powders.

Good Shooting--Don

LB Guy,

Can't possibly give you a specific FPS for your barrel, you'd have to put it over a chrono yourself to really know.

Having said that a 24" bbl. in the loads you've mentioned with IMR or H-4350 and 130 gr. NP's should be a very good one, accurate and plenty speedy enough IMO.

I've gone considerably over that in my Ruger #1 .270 and the accuracy with well assembled reloads with either H or IMR 4350 & 4831 has always beeen very good for me.

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I can go up to 62.0 grains, and being is how i like more power, if i can get good accuracy with more power, than MORE POWER it is

Beretta,

Just be careful when upping your charges, Some 270s will max out at or below 60 grns of H4831 w/ the 130s. Even at 60 grains you are close to max capacity and begining to compress the charge.

Also, don't rule out going up in charge weight just becuase you are getting good groups at 54 grns. Alot of rifles will have more than one "sweet spot" in the powder charge weight range. My wifes 270 does well w/ light charges and heavy charges of H4831 while pushing the same bullet, the accuracy stays about the same.

Good Luck

Reloader

Beretta, in regards to the Accubonds, I think the reason they are so popular is that they are usually very accurate for folks, and they are tougher than the Nosler Ballistic Tip, which are also very accurate, but some consider them to be too frangible.

I have had good luck with both bullets, and just like the 140 gr weight, which happens to shoot very well for me, and for a hunting bullet I just defer to the AB as it is a little tougher, and happens to be at the weight I want.

Regards--D

H-4831 is always a great place to start with the .270. A couple of other powders, notably RL-22 and Accurate Magpro will give higher velocities in warmer weather. However, H-4831 is less sensitive to low temperature, so other powders may end up being slower than H-4831 during colder hunting weather. IMR-4831 and RL-19 are also excellent .270 powders, especially with 130s & 140s. I have started playing with Ramshot Hunter and have good results so far. Hunter is also temp insensitive. All powders listed have given me excellent accuracy in the .270 Win in various different rifles over the years.

-Lou

I loaded Barnes 130 TSX for my 270 with H4350EXT 54 grains and chronyed at 3047 Average fps and 3/4 groups.
Have fun and don't get too carried away trying to get high velocities near max. It is not necessary for one and risky for a novice. Accuracy just under max is much more important.

dwight and others..i'm not in the velocity craze, at least not yet. i haven't even gotten anywhere near max yet. don't plan on it. for SC whitetails and target shooting, i don't need the fastest. I do plan on picking up some TSX bullets and some AccuBonds to see what happens.

I use 59 grns. of H4831sc over a 130 grn. Sierra Game King.......It's a killer!

I uses IMR-7828 wiht A 140 grain Hornady BTSP. And that is shot from A Howa 1550. Not the best rifle but the $250.00 dallar price tag was right.

First off, congratulations with your choice of cartridges. The .270 winchester is an excellent pick for Whitetail hunting. Whitetails aren't hard to kill, just a little tough finding them sometimes.

My selection of powders revolve around IMR 4350/IMR 4831 for the 130~140gr pills. Both powders are a perfect fit for the cartridge. I've shot the 140gr Nosler BT since it was introduced pushed by a load in the mid 50's of IMR 4831. This combinnation out of my Ruger has never failed to perform. Shoulder shots drops em, they'll travel less than 50 yards with a double lung shot. The Accubonds/ Tripple Shock are excellent bullets, their toughness aren't required when concidering Whitetails. I use the slower powders (RL-22/ IMR 7828) for heavier bullets. They'll produce higher muzzle pressure (more recoil) with the lighter bullets.

Also like the way your thinking. Speed ain't gonna do squat if you can't hit what your aiming at!

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My MOST ACCURATE and effective .270 WIN. hunting loads consist of 130 grain Nosler Partition bullets, 55.5 grains IMR 4350, WW cases, and Fed. 210 primers for all game in the lower 48 states. If you go to Alaska or British Columbia, change to 150 grain Nosler Partition bullets, 53.5 grains IMR 4350, WW cases, Fed. 210 primers. This load will kill all North American game animals, provided you do your part and hit them in a vital spot.

I used H4831 before switching to IMR 4350, and while H4831 berats IMR 4350 in the velocity department, I was never able to get the accuracy from it that IMR 4350 provides in my rifles (two Mann./Schoenauer carbines with 20", 1/9" twist barrels.) I get 2950 FPS from my 130 grain load, and 2800 from my 150 grain load from those 20" tubes. You could add 30 FPS MV to those figures for every inch by which your barrel exceeds 20".


Don't let anyone tell you the .270 WIN is not adequate for game larger than deer, because it is!!

i know it is plenty adequate. it's an old wives tale that it won't knock down an elk. I was taught to take base-of-the-kneck shots. I'm 16 and this was my first year deer huntin. well, i saw deer about 40% of my trips this year, but i couldn't get clear shots on all of them. the guy that took me said it was very wise decision I made. he said most ppl would have shot at them anyways. Looking back, i think i might have been able to get one, but they were a good bit behind me, and when i had my cross hairs on each deer in that line of 5, there were some twigs stickin out. 2nd to last day of the season, 6:45 am, 2 deer come walking to me. 20 yards away, i blasted one in the base of the kneck. dropped, thrashed around for 5 seconds, and was out. the other one ran right under my stand and stood, then i slowly began to pull the bolt back, and the next shell popped up out of the box mag. it ran away and i was so mad that i threw the empty shell. i wasn't even thinkin about the deer i had just shot...well sorry, wrong forum for this post. i hijacked my own thread lol. well neways, it was a good first year. this year i hope to increase my harvest a good bit. (think i'm expecting too much).

beretta9289,

Take to the woods with the idea that there is no such thing as a bad day hunting. They are ALL good. The harvest is a bonus. Every day hunting is better than most any day doing anything else. You can make each trip successful and more enjoyable. Not to say that there is nothing in the kill...it is tremendously important! Just keep it in perspective. You're off to a great start with a great cartridge!

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Originally posted by Jonathan Tomlinson:
I can vouch for the 130 TSX ahead of 57 grains of Rel #19 and a Fed 210GM primer in W-W case- chronos right at 3000 fps frm my 23" barrel and no pressure signs whatsoever, accuracy usually under one inch, barrel cleaned aever 20 or so rounds, no real fouling problems

This is an exact duplicate of a favorite load of mine. To date, no Colorado or Wyoming mule deer has lived more than a nanosecond after I introduced it to this recipe. Same goes for whitetails in KS, MO, KY, SC, and Alabama. I've used this load since early 2003.

Other than that, any of the 4831s are excellent 270 powders. Re22 and H1000 have been in my recipe book for about 17 years for various 270 bullets, and for accuracy, I had great success with 2 powders not mentioned very often at all anymore: IMR4064 and AA3100. BUT rifles can be very picky too. Ex. I have a 25.5" bbl on a 270 made by Hart, my brother has one of identical length but it's a PacNor. With the same brass, primer and bullet (130 NBT), his prefers H4831SC at 57 grains while mine likes a near max of Re22...same groups buy mine fly faster by about 80fps.

Matt:
Welcome to reloading. Stick with it and you'll have a lifetime of fun.

Never crowd max, always stay at least one full grain less and you'll never have problems.

Til you get a bunch of loading and hunting experience stick with Core Lokts, Sierra, Hornady's and such "standard" type bullets. Especially for practice.

I'd also suggest you get a Lee mold, lead pot and start casting your own. At your age I'd bet you could burn up a months income in an hours time. Cast bullets only cost your time, primer and powder. Figure 2-3 cents per shot. You'll learn a lot shooting them.
Make 'em hard enough you can't mark them with a thumb nail and keep the velocity under 2000fps and you shouldn't have any problems leading a barrel. Try H110, H4227 about 15-20gr with the casts and should make agood load.

As for powder. You've started off with a very good one. SC is even better. I'd also suggest you try 4895. A lot of guys won't agree with me, but, 4895 is a very good "average" velocity powder for any cartridge from .223 or smaller clear up to .375H&H. You'll never have a problem finding it either. Plus it'll be one of the cheaper powders in the store too.

Contact: www.powdervalleyinc.com and get their flyer. It only comes once a year so hang on to it. They've got about the best price's I've found anywhere.

.270 is a very good cal for deer and although me and other's will argue like hell over it. It's a mighty good minimum caliber for elk too.

I've never owned one, and not sure if I've even fired one or not. But, I've loaded them for years for two buddies. My ammo has killed at least 7 blk bear, 14 elk, ten deer at the very least in .270's for these two guys. I load 140 or 150gr bullets for them and nothing special. Just a good load is all.

You'll be doing yourself a major favor by getting a decent chronograph. But, I'd rather see you get some other brand than Chrony's. I had a bad deal with them. Shot the face out of mine with a patch trying to clock roundballs. They quoted $85 to repair it when I paid only $60. Later after months of no reply, got a letter saying they'd do it for $45 IF I'd send my 'unit to them'. Hell, they'd had it for over a year by then. Never did get another reply, nor my 'unit' back either. Don't know about you, but, I don't need to do business with that kind of company.

IF you can't find brass enough for what you want. You can always neck down 30'06 cases. Just don't get them mixed up with someone's 06's though. Keep track of them so you don't get into trouble that way. But, they are plumb safe. Just trim the length before loading.

You can't go wrong by getting Lee's cutter/pin gauge type trimmers. I made a small handle to hold the shell holder and put the cutter/pin in a small drill press. Works slick and fast.

Keep in mind: every time you pick up a case or shell, it's an inspection step. Everytime you do anything, insp it. You'll catch most problems that way.

Wish you well,

George

Reloader 22 @ 60.0
130 gr Sierra BT
Fed 210 Match Primer
WW Cases

Beretta, not to Hijack your thread, but--

Alaska Bush Man, what is Red Team 98?--just curious, also wondering what it is that you do for a living at the north pole?--maybe they are related...

Regards--Don

The .270 is arguably the greatest medium-bore cartridge ever invented, second only to the 30-06.

H4831 is a great powder for it. But I agree with those who recommended RL 22 -- it gives me the best combination of velocity and accuracy in my .270. I've also found that 150 grain bullets sometimes give better accuracy than 130 grain ones. I've had excellent results with Nosler Accubond bullets in some other calibers, but they did not give me top accuracy in my .270 with any load I tried.

As to IMR or H4350 -- I found that they sometimes tend to be slightly more accurate than H4831 in my .270 rifle, but at a sacrifice of 100 to 200 f.p.s. in top velocities.