218 mashburn bee load data (lil'gun)

Use Hodgdon data for the the standard Bee and work up.

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Thanks for the reply.

Hodgdon data for 218bee- 46gr bullet, 9.0gr Lil'gun, 2385 fps
The problem with the above data is that it for use in older firearms not
a modern both action.

I've found reloading data on http://www.reloadingroom.com/index_files/218Bee.htm
used on a TC contender so I'll start thier.
45gr Nslr SP, 14.0gr Lil'gun, 3073fps (15" barrel)

My rifle has a 26" barrel so the velocity will be higher.

Anyone gone any higher?

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Link doesn't work for some reason.
1/ www.reloadingroom.com/
2/Table of Contents (right hand side)
3/The third link on the left "The 218 bee in the Contender".

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to big a case for lil gun - try 4198 instead. you'll get much better results

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rl 7 works well too

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I'm using H110 in my standard Bee Ruger #1. 12.5grs and 40 Vmax. Works well

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My 22 Rem. Jet has nearly the same usable capacity as the .218 Bee. It is a custom Ruger #1 and the max. loads in the Lee manual for the .218 were my starting loads. The .218 seems to have a top working pressure of 40,000psi. I am safely ,from all indications,working at higher pressures. The best powders to date have been 2200, 680, & H-110. Can't get enough 4198 into the case.

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My 22 Rem. Jet has nearly the same usable capacity as the .218 Bee. It is a custom Ruger #1 and the max. loads in the Lee manual for the .218 were my starting loads. The .218 seems to have a top working pressure of 40,000psi. I am safely ,from all indications,working at higher pressures. The best powders to date have been 2200, 680, & H-110. Can't get enough 4198 into the case. roger

Have you tried WW 296?

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I've reloaded 50 rounds at 14gr of Lil'gun and may very well load .5 to 1gr above and measure the cases after firing to check for expansion.

Thanks for comments.

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Originally posted by bartsche:
My 22 Rem. Jet has nearly the same usable capacity as the .218 Bee. It is a custom Ruger #1 and the max. loads in the Lee manual for the .218 were my starting loads. The .218 seems to have a top working pressure of 40,000psi. I am safely ,from all indications,working at higher pressures. The best powders to date have been 2200, 680, & H-110. Can't get enough 4198 into the case. roger

Have you tried WW 296?

no I haven't. In fact the only Winchester powder I use is WXR.

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Originally posted by SmokinJ:
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Originally posted by bartsche:
My 22 Rem. Jet has nearly the same usable capacity as the .218 Bee. It is a custom Ruger #1 and the max. loads in the Lee manual for the .218 were my starting loads. The .218 seems to have a top working pressure of 40,000psi. I am safely ,from all indications,working at higher pressures. The best powders to date have been 2200, 680, & H-110. Can't get enough 4198 into the case. roger

Have you tried WW 296?

no I haven't. In fact the only Winchester powder I use is WXR. roger

I asked because although a different cartridge you can use both H-110 and WW 296 in the 22 Hornet. Some I know got great results with H-110 in his Hornet. I tried a load from Bob Forker for 296 and beat my friends load pretty darn good for accuracy and velocity. Good enough that I never tried 110 in it.

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Thanks for the recommendation of other powders but I've read good stuff about
using Lil'gun in this caliber online over a year ago.
Should have keep a record of the infor when I was online in OZ, now I can't find it.
Anyway the article on www.reloadingrooom.com has given me all I needed a starting place.

Thanks again
Hutzpah

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