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Do you weigh every charge or are you comfortable with the accurracy of your powder thrower metering correct charges? I've found that the measured weight of charges will differ from day to day depending on the type of day. IMy usual practise has been to weigh every thrown charge,but last week I didn't weigh any charges for my 303.I just rethrew any that didn't meter properly and I shot a 48.5 / 50. I'm starting to think that the weight may vary but as long as the volume remains constant being up or down a tad with the weight does not seem to matter. Opinions would be welcolm. rob "the older I get, the better I was" | ||
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I do both. When I am reloading pistol cartridges I weigh every 5th charge to try and insure consistency and visually inspect all cartridges in the tray to help confirm no gross over/under charge of powder before I seat the bullets. When I reload rifle cartridges, I deliberately set the powder throw to be about .5 grain LESS than what I really want. I then throw the charge into my beam-scale powder pan and use a trickle charger to bring each load up to the exact amount that I want before funneling the charge into the case -- and like above, I visually inspect all cases in the tray before seating bullets. Barstooler | |||
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I've found on my dillon 550,,consistant strokes is the key to consistant throws,,and using ball powder helps a bit too.I re-size all of my rifle brass on my rockcrusher,,tumble and trim,before it gets to the dillon,,every thing goes a lot smoother,,Clay | |||
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Dillon 550 for pistol using the powder charger, Rock Chucker for rifle and weigh every charge. Personal preference probably not necessary to weigh every charge but I have yet to blow one up by accidentally over charging. Swede --------------------------------------------------------- NRA Life Member | |||
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Once you learn the technique that works best for you, there is no reason to weigh every charge. I have shot a lot of .25 MOA groups with varmint rifles and haven't used a scale other than to set the measure. I've also found if you change powder lots, the velocity will be more consistent to set the powder measure to volume than to set it by weight of the previous lot. A shot not taken is always a miss | |||
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I weigh every tenth poweder charge as poured from my Redding measure. I do this with both pistol and rifle charges. BUT, for the long kerneled stuff (IMR 4064) I tend to weigh every charge. | |||
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I agree with jstephens. I use my scales to set my measure and verify weight, but after that I just check every so often to make sure my setting hasn't gotten bumped. I use a Redding 3BR, it is very consistant. I used to be concerned about the weight variation of thrown charges (+/- .1-.2 grns) but the bottom line is that if you have a well balanced load you can't tell the difference. Just do an honest test on it yourself (blind bag test where you don't know which one you are shooting) and I'll bet you your next paycheck you can't tell the difference.  | |||
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with ball powders I check weigh every 20th round or so. The stuff just measures very well. With the "stick" powdrs I usually dump from the measure to a pan in the scale and dribble to make it perfect. I load so few hunting loads that this really takes so little time and then I know what I have. That said I truly believe I could just reduce my hunting loads one grain and dump direct from the measure to the case and never see a difference in the field and as a matter of fact I've done that.....but it's so easy to weigh them all that I resorted to weighing them all again. I'm convinced that we get far far too anal about our reloads.....Get anal about safety is good.....but about accuracy is not especially when the gains may not even be measurable.....and as a matter of fact....they aren't! /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill | |||
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I agree. I proved this to myself one time. I have a very accurate load for a 308 I have. At the time, I was weighing every charge for each round. Well, I happened to notice that the powder weight for the load I was using matched the listing (same powder) for one of the dippers in the Lee set that I have. I loaded 20 rounds, 10 exact weight with the scale, and ten with the dipper. I shot two 5 round groups with each load off the bench. Guess what, group sizes were within an eight of an inch. | |||
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When using the ball powders, I throw using an RCBS measure and weigh every 8-10 throws. When using the sticks, IMR 4831,4350,3031 and such, I'll reach on the shelf and pull out the old original BELDING AND MULL and it's little metering tube! Weigh every 4-5 of them and it's pretty simply amazing how accurrate their old chart was and how accurract this old measure still is!! As for speed.......the digital dispensers cannot be more speedy than either of these I don't think after witnessing friends using them.....educate me! GHD Groundhog Devastation(GHD) | |||
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I hate to admit this, but once I work up a load I just throw everything. I use Harrells measures, wich are overkill, but the really look cool. the small caliber cartridges tend to be fine grained, and throw accurately within .1 to .05 grain. The big magnum cartridges take big log sized powders, and a lot of that to boot. If I can get within .3 grains to .4 grains, I'm happy. I do weigh all target loads for distances of 600 yards on out. I'll be glad when my eyes are too crappy for that long work. It takes forever to walk out to the pits on summer days when I should be fishing or reading a book and drinking ice tea in a hammock under a shade tree. LD  | |||
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lawndart, Mr. Harrel's measures are probably the ABSOLUTE finest there are out there!! Hes a super nice guy to boot!! I just never have gotten one from him.....he'll send you one to try for a period and if not satisfied send it back!!! He lives about 35 minutes from me! One of these days I'll junk the other two and just get one of Bud's little fine pieces of work!! Bud isn't really a "shooter"(yea he does shoot some stuff) but he is a MASTER MACHINIST!!! GHD Groundhog Devastation(GHD) | |||
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Not at all surprising..... Unless you're a benchrest fanatic there's a lot of reloading BS running around. Exact and uniform powder charges (within reason) are just one of them. I've posted many times about the other "waste of time gismos" out there. /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill | |||
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I've quit buying powder that needs to be weighed. IMR4895, H414 and H4350, 2400 and Unique are my standbys. If IMR ever makes a short cut 4350 I'll start using it. I weigh at least every 10th and do a visual check of every round. I don't load max loads. I can't shoot well enough to need a max load even for the plain old -06. | |||
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Throw for targets, weigh for load development, and weigh for hunting. one or two shots, may as well know what they are going to do! | |||
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