Just picked up a box of Hornady interbond .284 dia 154 grners. I opened the box to find the tips are all pressed in realy crooked and the jacket under one side of the tip is slightly deformed.

I will load these and use them as is as my local gun guy wont take them back because they are opened.

I sent hornady an e-mail and gave them the lot # and asked a question or two but have not heard anything from them.

I understand perfectly that this will have no hinderance on accuracy but looks realy odd in an application to somewhat add an accuracy factor to install these bent.

Your thoughts.

i bought a bunch of hornady amax bullets years ago 140 grain 6.5 bullets from midsouth. blemish sale. the lengths and diameters of the plastic tips varied greatly. they shoot perfectly.

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Originally posted by ted thorn:
Your thoughts.

You'll probably hear from Hornady shortly with a either a coupon or a couple of boxes of bullets. I had a similar situation with Hornady and they solved my problem in spades. The only thing I'd do differently would be to box up the bullets and ship them directly to Hornady - they will more than make up your shipping charges (at least that was my experience).

You know what guys, we are really lucky that our hobby is supported by vendors who, for the most part, have just terrific customer service. Every time I've given one of them a fair chance to make something right, I've been more than pleased with how I was treated. Leupold, RCBS, Nosler, Hornady, Dillon, Swarovski, Talley, Lyman...each of these companies could write a book on how to treat customers. Unfortunately, the same cannot be said for most of the larger gun manufacturers.

Can't say much for your gunshop. How were you supposed to see the problem without opening them?

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What would you do...Hornady Interbonds with bent tips

Hornady is an honest (and human) company and can error.....merely return them and you'll be treated right!!!

I had a bad bullet from Nosler the other day.....the white tip on an accubond was installed backwards....I returned it to Nosler as a joke.....they sent ten new ones in sincerity....great reply I'd say!

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You know what guys, we are really lucky that our hobby is supported by vendors who, for the most part, have just terrific customer service. Every time I've given one of them a fair chance to make something right, I've been more than pleased with how I was treated. Leupold, RCBS, Nosler, Hornady, Dillon, Swarovski, Talley, Lyman...each of these companies could write a book on how to treat customers. Unfortunately, the same cannot be said for most of the larger gun manufacturers.

This is an excellent statement....so true!

In the movie "Sniper" he uses a nail file to...

...Nevermind.

I'd find another local gun guy.

I'm a retailer in a different field but never have any problems with suppliers replacing faulty goods that are returned to me by customers.

Called Hornady, they sent a new box out with apologies and I think that is great...however after opening the box my smile turned flat to find bent tips in these. Hornady impressed me with their quick and profesional cust. service however....If I ever do anymore load develpoment useing a bonded bal-tip I will use Nosler from now on.

You know, it sounds like the tips are getting bent in transit. Maybe the box is getting dropped somewhere along the line. Hornady would probably appreciate being informed of the problem.

I talked with the Hornady Tech and he told me that this is somewhat common for the tips to be pressed in crooked and this is an issue that their QC dept. monitors regularly.

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Originally posted by ted thorn:
I talked with the Hornady Tech and he told me that this is somewhat common for the tips to be pressed in crooked and this is an issue that their QC dept. monitors regularly.

I don't believe it for a minute!!!!

I shot a number of 30 cal armor piercing bullets with bent tips [salvaged from the Captain crunch furnace].
They shot surprisingly accurately.

I recall somewhere that the base of the bullet is more critical to accuracy than the nose. That is why cast bullet molds for long range black powder cartrige rifels are nose pour.

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Originally posted by ted thorn:
Called Hornady, they sent a new box out with apologies and I think that is great...however after opening the box my smile turned flat to find bent tips in these. Hornady impressed me with their quick and profesional cust. service....

Hey Ted, Any chance you could post a flick of them?

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That is why cast bullet molds for long range black powder cartrige rifels are nose pour.

I did not know this - interesting! (I have recently 'invented' a nose pour mould - mine casts the gas check in place. It does require a hot mould and it ejects out the base. It is too painfully slow to be of any use to anyone! It does, however cast a hollow point with the sprue inside that hollow.)

Vapo...The tech told me it is common during start up and set up and that it usualy gets caught by QC. I have no need to tell anything but the truth, Hornady has sold me many great products throughout the years...I have no axe to grind with them. I think from now on I will just use the interlocks as I have never seen a bad one.



It does nothing to accuracy but looks odd in a finished batch for all the tips to be off center I'll take a picture tomorrow with a bullet on my Nikon Comparator in my shop to show the off center measurement.

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Vapo...The tech told me it is common during start up and set up and that it usualy gets caught by QC.

Those are the bullets typically put on a shelf and "given" to employees as rejects and are not sold to the public.

I've bought and used SST bullets from Hornady and have never seen anything like it.....something is wrong here.....
I'd return those bullets along with a polite letter direct to Steve Hornady and simply ask him to make it right with you.....they can do better than that and have done better than that for a darn long time.....IMO Steve will treat you right.....he's a sound business man and believes in selling good stuff.....

If you want you can ask him to reference this thread....

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Originally posted by ted thorn:
...The tech told me it is common during start up and set up ...

I'd agree with the Tech that it is Set-Up Bullets.

However, they should not have reached the Production Line. They should have been Flagged and sent to Scrap Disposition. Then if thefolks there decide to let the Production Personnel have them to take home, or tossed in the Scrap, fine.

I got some Set-Up Bullets from a totally different manufacturer loaded in 300Sav cartridges back around `75 or so. They looked all the same from the outside, but the portion of the Bullets inside the Case exhibited every kind of Set-Up disaster possible. Some open-ended, skewed boattails, kinda flat bases, and partially closed bases. Couldn't keep them on an 8.5"x11" sheet of paper at 100yds, which shouldn't surprise anyone.

Hard to say how those Hornady Bullets got through the entire process, but that sure dosen't represent the Hornady Bullets I'm used to.

Agree with Vapo to give Steve Hornady a shot at it. Met him and his Mom at the 2000 NRA Convention. Just the kind of guy I'd want working for me or running a company I worked for.

In todays world, these should have been disposed of by Production before Ouality ever had a chance to see them. Somebody in Production needs their clinton kicked into next month.

I would just about bet you lunch, if you took one or secveral of those Hornaday Interbonds and cut a hemi secton out with an end mill you would find air pockets under the jacket. They shot good for me but were very unprecictable preformers on game.

Longshot