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I have 3 boxes of factory 270 gr Hornady I can take to Africa for my plains game hunt. I leave on 11 Sep and I will also take a 308 Win. I would rather take reloads for the 376 as this is a tune-up for something bigger in this rifles future. I have both 270 gr A-Frames and 270gr Barnes X. Trying to load both to 3.1 OAL in my short action Montana 1999. I can get a max published load with BLC-2 without compression with the A-Frames. I get some compression with them before reaching max published loads of Varget. At 3.1 inches the Barnes extend well below the case neck. I think 60.gr might be compressed with the Barnes. Looks like I may need a finer grain powder or a faster burner or both for the barnes than the Varget.Any suggestion out there? I am getting an average of 2795 FPS from the factory 270gr Hornady at 18 feet and they seems a little hot. Does anyone know what powder Hornady is using? I had 61.0 gr of RAM SHOT TAC recommended for the 270gr XLCs for groups under 1 MOA and 2486FPS with a 19" barrel STEYR Scout. HELP!!!
 
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Bump.

I'm in the same boat re handloads. Factory ammo being hard to find here in OZ. Cases are easy, though, with the Hornady boxes of 50 running around $50 AUD.

Any advice on loads for the 235 Woodleigh using ADI or Win powders would be appreciated.


Cheers, Dave.

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I don't know anything about ADI powder and I have not tried any Win powder but I have taken my 376 Steyr. I have taken the 376 twice to Africa with great results. I loaded 270 grain Swift A-Frames over 63.5 grains of Varget with great results. This nearly fills the case with the bullet seated to 3.10". In 2005 I shot a big Blue Wildebeest at 95 yards from roughly from a 4 to 10 position. The bullet broke the far shoulder and leg and was under the skin. It weight about 235 grains. I don't have my notes but I just weigh it last month. I shot a Zebra twice. One was a complete pass through and the other was a rear to front shot. That bullet weigh 265 grains. This year I shot a big mature Eland Bull and had a complete pass through. He fell down right there and was dead when we arrived. Shot was about 165 meters. My MV was about 2550 and I think my former post of 07 Sept 2005 should have read 2695 MV with factory 270 grain Hornadys. I have some Hodgdon' 4895 to try in case I want to use some Barnes bullets as they are longer and the H4895 is finer grained and a little faster than Varget. I am sure I could get about 1 grain more of H4895 without a lot of trouble and I think the MV would be a little over 2600FPS with the A-Frames. I also want to use some Ram Shot TAC when I find some without paying the shipping.
 
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I don't know anything about ADI powder and I have not tried any Win powder but I have taken my 376 Steyr. I have taken the 376 twice to Africa with great results. I loaded 270 grain Swift A-Frames over 63.5 grains of Varget with great results. This nearly fills the case with the bullet seated to 3.10". In 2005 I shot a big Blue Wildebeest at 95 yards from roughly from a 4 to 10 position. The bullet broke the far shoulder and leg and was under the skin. It weight about 235 grains. I don't have my notes but I just weigh it last month. I shot a Zebra twice. One was a complete pass through and the other was a rear to front shot. That bullet weigh 265 grains. This year I shot a big mature Eland Bull and had a complete pass through. He fell down right there and was dead when we arrived. Shot was about 165 meters. My MV was about 2550 and I think my former post of 07 Sept 2005 should have read 2695 MV with factory 270 grain Hornadys. I have some Hodgdon' 4895 to try in case I want to use some Barnes bullets as they are longer and the H4895 is finer grained and a little faster than Varget. I am sure I could get about 1 grain more of H4895 without a lot of trouble and I think the MV would be a little over 2600FPS with the A-Frames. I also want to use some Ram Shot TAC when I find some without paying the shipping.


Last post should have read I think I can get 1 more grain of Varget without a lot of problems with a MV of just over 2600FPS
 
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In my Steyr Scout I get about 2475 with 270gr Swifts and 65.5grs of Varget. With 260grs Accubonds 67.5gr of Varget got me to 2550.

If I had to hunt it tommorrow it would be with the Swift load since the A-frames are one of the few bullets that don't become completely mangled in the rear reserve magazine...........................DJ


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Many thanks guys, I guess i will be chasing up some Varget...

BTW, the mangled bullets? Woodleigh PPs seem to work OK. At least the did in my 375 and 416s.


Cheers, Dave.

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Originally posted by Sambar 9.3:
Many thanks guys, I guess i will be chasing up some Varget...

BTW, the mangled bullets? Woodleigh PPs seem to work OK. At least the did in my 375 and 416s.


The mangled bullets were peculiar to the Steyr Scout. They have a reserve magazine in the buttstock. The Lightweight Scouts recoil is in the it will get your attention category and seems smash up the buttstock rounds in particular. In other rifles I've had good luck with other bullets without as bad of a tip smashing problem......................DJ


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Thanks. I will give the Woodleigh PPs a try in the rear mag and see how they go.


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Ok, Back from the range.

The Woodleigh protected point does well in the rear mag.
I put 4 in the rear mag, and left them there for the 30 pr so rounds fired today, during zeroing and checking at various distances (damn, this thing shoots flat!).
No observable damage to either projectiles or cases, no observable setback to cartridge OAL.
If you can get them, or they are in a weight you can use, they may be your answer.

BTW, recoil, while noticeable, was by no means uncomfortable for me.
But, that is of course, just my opinion. Others will no doubt find it different.


Cheers, Dave.

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Rang ADI. The chances are, if you are using a Hodgdon powder, it's ADI.
Example: H4895 = AR 2208 (according to their chart).

Any other Hodgdon loads, for say a 235gr?
I'd like to duplicate the old 235gr loads for the 375 H&H, for use on the smaller (350 - 600 lb) critters, that don't bite back...


Cheers, Dave.

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