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Do you use a special die and a rifle press? I am talking about sabot slugs? Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue. What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | ||
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Mike, I use a roll crimping tool to hold slugs in my 12 ga 3.5" SxS...but I don't use sabot slugs. They would probably work the same, though. Someone else likely knows more about this than I know, though. Good hunting, Andy ----------------------------- Thomas Jefferson: “To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.” | |||
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Mike I played around with this about 10 yrs ago. I used plastic shotgun wads, 800-X, and slugs from Buckmaster. I used a Winchester AA trap hull and folded crimp. These shot quite well out of my 870SP rifled bbl. Never did shoot anything but paper with them though. WN Fill your boots, man! | |||
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I always used a Lyman roll-crimping head in a drill press when loading slugs. "Bitte, trinks du nicht das Wasser. Dahin haben die Kuhen gesheissen." | |||
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Mike, I've been loading sabots myself here lately. I just bought a Hastings barrel and wanted to try a few handloads through it as well as some store bought shells(28 bucks for 10 shells!!). I bought the STI sabot kit for 24 dollars that came w/ 24 hulls(Primed), 24 sabots, and 24 bullets, and a roll crimping tool. I also bought 25 Lyman 525 grains slugs and they work in AA hulls w/ yellow AA wads and load just like field loads in my Versa-Mec. The Lyman slugs look like a giant air rifle pellet. The roll crimping was a PITB as far as I'm concerned, it worked but looked terrible. Nothing like the store bought roll crimped shells. After about 2-3 I sort of got it down but they still don't look like factory rolls. The Lyman slugs just use a fold crimp in the Mec press. I've got several different charges loaded w/ each type of slug but, I haven't been to the range yet. I used Blue Dot for some faster loads and Herco for some mid range loads. I'll let you know how they do when I find time to hit the range. If one of the recipes will do 2" or so at 100, I believe they'd work well out to 125 or maybe 150. I almost bought some of the 12ga 45 cal 300 grain bullets w/ sabots from Ballistic Products but, I couldn't find any data for the loads. It may come w/ them, don't know. I thought if the factory loads are hitting 2000 FPS w/ 385 grainers then we should be able to find something close but, the components are just not out there. Good Luck Reloader | |||
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