Howdy all, does anyone know or has anyone tried loading 500 gr. softpoints-Hornady ( that I assume were designed for the larger magnums) in the 45-70? I know you can shoot 500 gr. lead but copper jacketed? I've got a shiloh sharps that I shoot smokeless loads in, I know.. blasphemy! I'm just lazy and don't want to go the Black powder cartridge route yet. If this is possible, any load data you care to share? TIA, Gary

I'll look in my Lyman's manual when I get home, I think there may be a load in there. Is it a vintage (old) or new Shiloh? What pressure do you want to stay under?

New manufacture circa 1989, I was told by Shiloh that I could use Ruger #1 data. Everywhere else I look they list the 1874 style sharps and replicas in the pressure category above trapdoors, but below the Marlin and Win. 1886. Personally, the rifle kicks me plenty well enough with 405 gr. pills around 1800 FPS. What's another 100 grains?

GoWyo! - Here data for the Ruger or Marlin 1895 from the Hodgdon #25 Manual:

500 gr bulet:

BL-C(2) 49.0/53.0 gr (min/max) 1448/1623 fps
H335 49.0/53.0 gr 1451/1638 fps
H4895 48.0/52.0 gr 1471/1679 fps
H322 46.0/50.0 gr 1504/1667 fps
H4198 39.0/43.0 gr 1431/1607 fps
H4227 32.0/34.0 gr 1405/1468 fps

Hope this helps

[This message has been edited by Lars G (edited 06-21-2001).]

[This message has been edited by Lars G (edited 06-21-2001).]

Go,

Here are some 500gr jacketed RN Hornady bullet data.

These are out of the Hornady manual #4, for a Ruger #1 22" bbl.

IMR4198 39.1GR @ 1500 47.6GR @ 1800
IMR3031 44.1GR @ 1500 53.1GR @ 1800

Lyman's 47th Edition
Lists Ruger chambered universal reciever and 28" bbl.

IMR4198 35.0GR @ 1440 43.0GR @ 1657
IMR3031 44.0GR @ 1444 53.1GR @ 1742
H-4895 50.0GR @ 1646 57.0GR @ 1879

I think I remember that Universal recievers are a little tighter than regular bbls? Might account for some of the differences. I know that when Lyman says max, they are not kidding, I usually have to stop well before I get there in my guns. Good luck.