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Ran some 130gr .308 cal TTSXs out of my '06 at 113 yards today. One group. 3 ea 51 gr Varget, 52 gr and 53 gr. Eight of the nine went into an inch. The ninth one I pulled. I think I like them. Last year I tried TSXs out of the same gun and they just would not come under an inch no matter what I tried for powder, seating depth and charge weight. | ||
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Exciting Miles58 - I remember when you told me that about the TSX. My experience had been also more than an inch. Do they make the TTSX for the .243 yet? ********************** > I'd rather be a CONSERVATIVE NUTJOB than a Liberal with no NUTS & No JOB > | |||
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I also went to the range today. I'm still playing with the 7mag and 168 VLDs, a 270 with 110 Barnes TTSX, and another 270 with 130 Nosler Solid Base bullets. Quite frankly, I couldn't be much happier with the results in all. I have definitely confirmed that the Hart bbl 270 MUST have at least 9 rounds through it when the bbl is clean. Curiously, I can see faint copper streaks, reddish in color at the muzzle end with shots 1-8 or so. After that, it's like there is no copper fouling at all. 58.0 grains of H4350, WW brass, 210 match primers, and the 110 TTSX did exactly the same thing the last 2 trips to the range. In 3 shot groups, shots 1-3, 4-6, and 7-9 were about an inch or just under, then 10-12+ were all measured at 0.445 to 0.490 center to center. If I was to overlay the past 2 targets from the past trips, they'd all be clustered together. As for the other 270, the 130 solid base bullets were also a duplicate group time after time. What I do like about this load is that I'm not seeing any change whatsoever no matter the outside temp, b/c I'm using 58.0 grains of Reloder 22. Today it was 81 degrees, 65% humidity. The last 2 times it was between 50 and 65 degrees with less humidity. No change whatsoever to 200 yards. I was doing development with Vihtavuori N560 and the 7mag/168 VLDs today starting with 62.0 grains and finishing at 66.0, which I wound up pulling, since 65.5 grains was sticky on the bolt lift. 63.0, 63.5, and 64.0 grains all went into the same exact hole. The bullet was seated at the lands. I also found that if I was to overlay the target with Retumbo, 72.5 grains almost did the exact same thing, with a 3 shot group at 0.250" and the same POI as the N560 at 100 yards. So now it's just a matter of doing confirmation tests with both at 200 yards. I'm using Nosler custom brass seconds, and 215 match primers. Why they are seconds I cannot figure out as weight sorting turned out to be completely unnecessary and they were sized, trimmed, uniformed, etc. I was told they had "visible blemishes." They were cheaper than new Winchester brass, so I bought 8 bags of 50. My friend who just bought his .308 also wants to try the 130 TTSX. I'd be interested if anyone has game experience with them. Ted Kennedy's car has killed more people than my guns | |||
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I seriously doubt we'll get a TTSX in 243 this year. The 85gr TSX is a long bullet as is, so tipping is going to be involving trade offs. I would guess that Barnes will be picking off the low hanging fruit first to pay for the development of the harder ones. I would think one of the harder ones that they might do first would be a 110 grain 30 cal. That would come out of an '06 at near 3500 and should just crush deer. The 6mm 85 grain TSX is a very accurate bullet that hits very hard and penetrates better than anything else available for 6mm. What you get by adding the tip isn't going to be much. It won't stretch the range, it won't hit much harder, it won't improve the loadability. I would predict the next TTSXs we see will be the bottom end bullets in .30, .270. .25, .280 A 90-95 grain TTSX out of a .270 would be a wonderful antelope/deer round. | |||
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