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I have a 25-06 and turned too much from the case necks. After sizing the necks the bullets don't fit very tight. Iam assuming that too much was removed from the case neck. Is there any way to reform these cases?
Thanks in advance for any suggestions. Merry Christmas to all the marksmen and want-to-be marksmen.

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How do you size?? You essentially need a die with a smaller inside neck diameter. One option would be to get a bushing die for your caliber, and choose a smaller (than normal) bushing. Or, if you use a conventional die, you could polish down your expander. But that would mean it might not work for "normal" brass.

In reality, it is probably a question of whether it is worth coming up with a work-around for this situation, or whether it would be easier and cheaper to pitch the incorrectly turned brass?? I don't know where you are located, but if in the US, you can buy quite a bit of brass for the price of a bushing die, say. Besides, having turned down the brass too much, means you'll have to work the brass more. In turn, that will translate into shorter brass life, so don't count on getting your normal number of reloads out of these cases.

It is kind of rare to see the .25-06 subjected to neck turning. Is this for a factory chamber??

- mike

P.S. Having re-read your post, did you mean "turn" or "trim" the necks?? Sorry if I state the obvious, but something in your post makes me wonder whether you are really "turning" necks (i.e. reduce the neck wall thickness), or whether you are trimming (i.e. reducing case overall length). In my initial reply I assumed you were "turning".


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you'll be needing either a bushing die with appropriate sized bushing to yield neck tension, or a Lee collet die to clamp the neck against a mandral (which may need to be turned down .001"-.002")


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I don't know how many shells you are talking about or how much you turned them down. It is a learning experience and I can tell you from past failures with neck turning it don't take much. I tossed the undersized ones and reset the Sinclair neck turner for less a cut.
I am using Wilson Bench rest bushing dies if you get the right bushing the bullets will be tight enough. I found that about two thousands smaller than the outside of the neck size on a loaded cartridge is just about right tension.

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I neck ream and cut to length before resising and never had this problem. if you resise before neck reaming you could try resising again. this may solve your problem, it worked for me.


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Unless you have a tight necked custom chamber, turning isn`t always a good option. The only reason for turning with a factory chamber is to try to even up the necks on brass that has varying wall thickness to reduce runout. It takes very little, as you`ve found to go too far with the turner. I`ve a 270 with a chamber neck that is ~0.003 over a loaded cartridges neck diameter. I take just enough off the necks of my brass to even them out, maybe 0.002"-0.003" max and quit. Taking too much off will have you overworking the necks if the chamber isn`t tight and can cause early case failure.


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Originally posted by Ol` Joe:
Unless you have a tight necked custom chamber, turning isn`t always a good option. The only reason for turning with a factory chamber is to try to even up the necks on brass that has varying wall thickness to reduce runout. It takes very little, as you`ve found to go too far with the turner. I`ve a 270 with a chamber neck that is ~0.003 over a loaded cartridges neck diameter. I take just enough off the necks of my brass to even them out, maybe 0.002"-0.003" max and quit. Taking too much off will have you overworking the necks if the chamber isn`t tight and can cause early case failure.


Totally agree. You can also sort your brass according to neck thickness variance, and avoid turning all together - albeit at the cost of some brass used for fowlers and practice only.

- mike


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