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45-70 / Starline?
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Getting ready to start loading 45-70 w/ new Starline brass, for my Ruger #1.

Intend to load Hornady 300 JHP, Speer 350 JSP, & Cast Performance 405 FNGC - all over IMR 3031 to start.

I have heard several times that when using Starline, it is recommended to subtract 2.0 grains of powder for any given load level of performance. Something to do w/ their brass being heavier.....

Any truth to this? Not real critical on the bottom end I suppose, but might make a difference up top. Input would be greatly appreciated.


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I agree. When you change brass from that used in a manual or even change lots, you need to work up your loads.


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gcf: Starline brass is heavier than Winchester, so when working up to loads from published data specifying Winchester brass, your top-end load will probably be about 2 grains lower than the max in the published load. I found this out after I had a couple of case-head separations after reloading my 45-70 Starline brass 6-8 times with top-end loads. Nothing wrong with the brass; it's just that I had not been subtracting the two grains, and the pressures I was running were a bit high.
 
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gcf: Starline brass is heavier than Winchester, so when working up to loads from published data specifying Winchester brass, your top-end load will probably be about 2 grains lower than the max in the published load. I found this out after I had a couple of case-head separations after reloading my 45-70 Starline brass 6-8 times with top-end loads. Nothing wrong with the brass; it's just that I had not been subtracting the two grains, and the pressures I was running were a bit high.


Thanks for the heads up. Do you know of any other instances of this happening to others?


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