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Oregon newspapers this morning carried an article which said the explosion started with a fire in Nosler's underground testing range.

Apparently a staff member was firing a rifle for accuracy, when one shot started a fire. The fire spread to ther parts of the facility and an explosion followed. No one was injured, but at least one preliminary estimate placed the damage at roughly $2.5 Million.

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The newspaper article I read this evening says


"A preliminary investigation determined that a rifle fired in an underground test tunnel sparked a fire that set off a large explosion last week at a bullet plant in Bend.

"Fire officials told KTVZ-TV an employee was testing the rifle at Nosler Inc.

"A host of local, state, and federal agencies wrapped up their investigation at the scene Saturday and the building was released to the company.

"Nosler officials issued a revised value of $2.8 million for the building and 12.9 million for the contents Saturday but said the company's insurer was not ready to release a damage estimate.

"No serious injuries were reported in the Wednesday fire and explosion."
 
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Just as we all suspected - unburnt powder in front of the firing line.

You'd have thought they'd have had better housekeeping than that. Roll Eyes
 
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Just as we all suspected - unburnt powder in front of the firing line.

You'd have thought they'd have had better housekeeping than that. Roll Eyes

smokeless powder does not explode
 
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Just as we all suspected - unburnt powder in front of the firing line.

You'd have thought they'd have had better housekeeping than that. Roll Eyes

smokeless powder does not explode


Reading comprehension is FUNdamental Roll Eyes

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Apparently a staff member was firing a rifle for accuracy,, when one shot started a fire. The fire spread to other parts of the facility and an explosion followed.


Anyway reading lessons aside what's the status on the futility? Was it a total loss?


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It makes me wonder if they was trying to develop a primer mfg area....

I have no evidence of this but an explosion suggests this.....

Seems every company that tried to make primers has had an explosion.....


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Anyway reading lessons aside what's the status on the futility? Was it a total loss?[/QUOTE]

Reading lessons?

What's the status on the futility?
 
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I have no information yet on the future of the facility, or of the overall effect of the explosion on either the short term or long term buiness prospects of Nosler. As they were insured, I suspect any problems will be temporary.
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As to the "explosion", though smokless powder is not itself a "high explosive" and does not normally detonate in and of itself during controlled burns and thereby does not normally "explode", an excessive amount burned in a closed container can certainly cause the container to "explode".

That is, too much of it burnt in a cartridge case can destroy a steel action and/or barrel.

Likewise, too much of it lit all at once in either a tunnel or a building can create enough rapidly expanding super-hot gases to blow out the walls and ceiling of those structures.

I suspect the fire from the underground range found its way to wherever Nosler had some significant quantities of either proppelants or lubricants/solvents stored. Possibly the fire reached both. Each can create impressive amounts of hot expanding gases, sufficient to cause buldings to "explode".
 
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Anyway reading lessons aside what's the status on the futility? Was it a total loss?[/QUOTE]

Reading lessons?

What's the status on the futility?
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Hey guys, don't speculate, just go to their Facebook page. Get the scoop straight from the folks at Nosler! They have updates and a cool video of the folks working.

Nosler's page on Facebook

For those who don't want to log into Facebook here is Nosler's latest press release
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Bend, Ore. June 8th, 2010 – Over 50 Nosler employees returned to work Monday to begin everything from cleaning machinery, salvaging raw materials and shipping finished inventory. They are doing the necessary groundwork of getting the company production back up to speed. The various investigations of “cause and origin” continue. The cause of the fire has not yet been identified.

Keeton King, Nosler’s long time construction contractor is on site and will spearhead the rebuilding process. Mr. King will be using local businesses and hiring local employees for the repair project.


The original press release
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Bend. Ore.-June 3rd, 20I0- At approximately 2:00pm on June 2nd, Nosler Incorporated, experienced a fire of unknown origin in a portion of its manufacturing facility, which was followed by an explosion that damaged the SE corner of one of the Nosler buildings. The building fire alarm was timely activated and all Nosler employees made it out of the building safely and are all accounted for.

The cause of the fire and subsequent explosion are currently under investigation by the appropriate governmental agencies. Nosler will continue to work and cooperate with them in order to assess the damage and to get NosIer, Inc. back up and running.

A significant finished goods inventory was stored in a separate building and will enable Nosler to meet short term customer needs, Nosler's Chief Executive Officer, Bob Nosler, commented that "Our number one priority after our people and our premises is to repair the plant and to get our employees back to work as soon as possible."


Here is a link to the video on You Tube
Nosler on YouTube


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I'm thinking there will likely be a huge supply of 2nds to hit the market soon!!!


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"No serious injuries were reported in the Wednesday fire and explosion."


I'm grateful that no one was injured but " What Exploded " ?. Eeker

I purchased seven boxes of Nosler in various calibers to help them out . An I need bullets like a horse

needs flies !!!!!. If seconds are available I'll help buy those to , I'd much rather help them than those

IRS ASSHOLES !!!.

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I just bought five boxes myself, all Partitions, 4 boxes of 180 gn 30 cal and 1 box of 300 gn 375 cal.


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Here's another update from Nosler's Facebook account.
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Cleanup at the plant is going very fast. We would like to thank Arlen Keeton of Keeton-King Construction of getting everything going so quick and doing such a thorough job. Also, shipping has been getting lots of orders out the last few days so if you're currently waiting for products they should be arriving very soon.


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So what blew up ? Does anyone actually Know just what did cause the explosion ?.

For something to blow up there had to be a source material for an explosion to occur !.

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I am a firefighter, and almost any thing can explode. Every hear of a back draft? This is an explosion that can be fueled by your couch. I have seen wood pallets "explode." It would not surprise me at all for a ammunition plant to have multiple explosions during a fire. I think the press is sensationalizing the explosion. The fact that every one made it out suggests to me the fire caused the explosion not the explosion causing the fire.
 
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Just as we all suspected - unburnt powder in front of the firing line.

You'd have thought they'd have had better housekeeping than that. Roll Eyes



And you make your conclusion based on what?


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I was over at the Pro Shop this morning and everything appears to be fine...in that part of the building.

They are having a fire sale. Lot of brass, dies, and bullets on sale right now.

Picked up 100 - 140G Accubonds for the .270....$24
 
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