I have never shot an elk. I will try to do so this fall. I think I have settled on either Nosler's 180 gr. partition or the 180 gr. Ballistic Tip. I will send them sailing with a Rem Model 7 in 300 Rem SAUM. My barrel length is 22".

BTH,

Of the two bullets mentioned I would definitely stick with the partition. It has proven many times over as a bullet for this job. Not to say the ballistic tip won't do it, but Nosler does not recommend its use for elk sized animals in calibers below .338. Another bullet you might want to look at however is the new accubond from Nosler. It is basically a ballistic tip with a bonded core. Gives performance much like a partition with flight characteristics of a ballistic tip. I have gone to the 200 grain configuration in my .300 Winchester Mag, but they have now come out with 180 grainer that would be perfect in the Short Mag.

i second 300 winnie on the BT. They are a bit too fragile for elk. I'd go with a Partition, Failsafe or accubond in a 200 grainer.

I used X bullets on two elk last fall and they worked great but they were finicky when it came to accuracy. Too expensive to fiddle with that much. Partitions always shoot good for me from the get go.

Thanks guys!
I am new and didn't realize the BT's are not intended for slower velocities. I could get higher velocities with a 150 grain bullet, but I'd feel better pushing a 180 grain bullet at elk. What is your opinion on the 150 grain weight? I have only hunted elk once (when I was 16...16 years ago). Then, I carried a 7mm Mag with 150 grain factory loads. I remember many guys telling me I had enough gun and bullet, but I am not so sure. I guess I'm fisging for advice from guys who've taken elk.

180gr Partition over the BT. Barnes Triple Shock 168gr over the Partition. I have taken 4 Elk with the Barnes X in my 270 and have never felt the need for more gun. Ranges were 30 feet, 125 yards, 75 yards and 416 yards. Even though I much prefer the Barnes, the Partition will work great.

Partition all the way of the 2 you listed...save the NBT's for deer...

The partition will give you more "options" than a BT. IF you get a 1/4 away shot @ 75yds, I wouldn't want a BT in the chamber. Godd hunting!

Elk are very tough and can run for a long way with a lethal wound, even if shot with a large bore rifle. I have shot Elk withh a .338 Win. Mag.-250 N.P. that simply sauntered off as though they had never been shot; the last one took two bullets in the heart-lungs and still walked about 35 yds. before settling down with his head up, I had to shoot him in the spine to finish him off.

I always use Nosler Partitions for Elk, however, I would feel fine with Tripleshocks, Failsafes or TBBCs as well; the Ballistictips are not for Elk, IMO.

I have killed Elk with 180 grain and 200 grain Nosler Partitions and North Forks from a .300 Win mag. I have also used Barnes 225 grain XLC's from a .340 Wby and North Fork bullets of 270 grains from a .358 STA. I would highly reccomend all three bullets, the North Forks being the best of the lot. Let your rifle tell you what to shoot.
good shooting.

I have also killed a few with the .300 Win Mag and 180 and 200 grain Nosler Partition's.Darn good bullet's.I also think the North Fork is one worth looking at along with the Accubond from Nosler.

Just my opinion.Jayco.

I've killed many elk with my 300win mag and 200gr nosler partitions. That said i'm going to switch to Nosler 200gr Accubonds. i don't like how the softpoint bullets get deformed points on them. i think i can eliminate this problem using a accubond

Partition or Accubond! Nuff said!

Thanks for the help. I've ordered both the partitions and accubonds. I'll choose the most accurate. I have only two manuals at this point (I am new). I have not tried other brands, so it is not that I am partial to Nosler, but it is the only manual I have with 300 Rem. SAUM loads. My SPeer manual does not have loads for that caliber.

Born to Hunt:

Here's my O2, 5 elk shot with the 180 Nosler Partition, out of a 30-06 @ 2800fps+. 5 dead elk,all down within 25 yards. We never found any of the bullets, as they passed clean thru. As to Ballistic Tips,the only EXPERIENCE I have is with a 225 grain 358 cal out of a 35 Whelen@ about 2675fps. The elk was running away, and I hit it just in front of the left rear quarter. The bullet traveled all the way thru, and stopped just inside the brisket, the recovered bullet weighed 206 of the original 225 grains and the elk went down. By the way, and this ought to stir the pot pretty good, the only elk I have ever seen go down in a heap, 2 of them, were with a 270 Winchester.

Jerry

Jerry,
I don't doubt that at all. I do not believe that we have to have cannons to kill game. I do love the Remington Model 7 Rifle. When they offered it in something I was comfortable with, I bought one. I think a 7mm-08 or maybe .308 was the largest Model 7 offering prior to the introduction of the SAUM.

I also know of bull Elk dropped with one shot with a .270 Win. and I have found several that ran off and died after lung shots with a .270; this in the steep, thick timbered areas of B.C. where only 6 pt. bulls are legal.

Another aspect of this is the constant presence of Grizzlies in Elk country and the aggressive behaviour of these bears toward hunters who are in possession of a dead animal.This is why I favour a medium bore rifle with heavy for caliber premium bullets for all hunting prior to den-up and save my .270s, .280s. and all the other small bores for late season deer hunting.

Conditions are much different here than in the lower 48 and small bores are not always as effective as bigger bores, all other factors being equal. After 40 yrs. of this, I find that a .338 is a much superior tool to a .270, etc.,but, I think that everyone should use whatever suits his situation and makes him happy.