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Im just getting started in rifle reloading after doing quite a bit of handgun stuff. Ive got a 22-250 bolt gun that already shoots sub MOA with factory ammo and I want to make the groups smaller. Ive searched and read pages on top of pages of arguments about neck vs. full length resizing, and their seems to be little mention of full length bushing dies. Are theese dies really all they are cracked up to be? Seems like they give you all the advantages of both types of sizeing without having to have a 3rd die laying around. Which mfg. makes the best bang for your buck with this type of die setup? | ||
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Bushing dies are great if you want to control neck tension. You need to turn necks to a even thickness to take advantage of them though, other wise you are getting the same result as a normal FL die would give. Case life is good and runout is controlled as well. Neck dies do the same type of sizeing as a FL die except they don`t touch the case body, normally stopping a hair above the shoulder/neck juction. Great for extending brass life and can help accuracy as the case fits the chamber well. FL dies size body and neck. They can give excellent ammo and for me, give less runout usually then neck dies as they support the whole case while sizeing. They also work the brass the most and case life isn`t as long as with other sizeing methods. Part Sizeing with a FL die is IMO the best way to go with a factory or normal SAAMI spec chamber. You can set the die to size as little as possible while allowing easy feeding and still keep the case running straight on axis. Case life and runout is usually good. One more die you might concider is the Lee Collet die. They give very straight ammo, mild neck tension, need no lube when useing and are reasonably cheap. I`ve 4 sets and like them personally. ------------------------------------ The trouble with the Internet is that it's replacing masturbation as a leisure activity. ~Patrick Murray "Why shouldn`t truth be stranger then fiction? Fiction after all has to make sense." (Samual Clemens) "Saepe errans, numquam dubitans --Frequently in error, never in doubt". | |||
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I think the biggest bonus from using bushing type dies is, that you don't have to pull that damned expander ball back through the neck. Straighter necks and less stretch is the end result. | |||
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So would something like the Forster bushing bump die accomplish the same thing as partial full length resizing? Seems like a good alternative. Providing this is a bolt gun and the only rifle of this caliber that I will be loading for, will I ever even need to resize the entire case body? (given the exeption of the occasional neck bump) | |||
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President of my State Association did an accuracy test with standard dies and bushing dies. He published the results in the state newsletter. Conclusion: no specific measurable differences on target. | |||
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