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I started reloading some .223s using some 62 grain tracer bullets. These bullets are very long so when they're seat to Max overall length I know the powder is compressed in the case. I've been aftraid to fire the fearing overpressure. Would under-filling each case be a problem as long as the tracer round makes it out of the barrel?
 
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Use a starting load listed for 62 grain bullets and you'll be good to go.
 
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FrownerYears ago I ruined a pristine 30 cal. 4 groove 03A3 barrel by shooting about 100 rounds of tracer ammo through it. FYI CRYBABY roger


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Milt, are you starting with max loads??
If you are, that's a strategy for disacter.
Back off 10% and work up carefully. If you are still uncomfortable, back off some more, (but not to less then a 60% load density) This is how you protect yourself from variations in powder lots, brass thickness, and chambers.

Bases on your questions, I must ask, do you have a loading manual, and have you read it?
 
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FrownerYears ago I ruined a pristine 30 cal. 4 groove 03A3 barrel by shooting about 100 rounds of tracer ammo through it. FYI CRYBABY roger


Roger,

I have heard of this happening, and not saying it didn't happen to you, but I still have a hard time believing it. All the tracers I've loaded and fired never lit until they had exited the barrel. I've removed the tracer compound from milsurp bullets and as near as I can tell it's pretty much the same as the stuff road flares are made from. Even if they do light up in the barrel they can't add all that much heat or pressure to what's already going on in the barrel. Or can they?
 
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Can you buy tracer bullets to reload with? and if so where?
 
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Can you buy tracer bullets to reload with? and if so where?


http://wideners.com/itemview.cfm?dir=278|281|1146

Shipping to Canada might be problem.
 
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FrownerYears ago I ruined a pristine 30 cal. 4 groove 03A3 barrel by shooting about 100 rounds of tracer ammo through it. FYI CRYBABY roger


Roger,

I have heard of this happening, and not saying it didn't happen to you, but I still have a hard time believing it. All the tracers I've loaded and fired never lit until they had exited the barrel. I've removed the tracer compound from milsurp bullets and as near as I can tell it's pretty much the same as the stuff road flares are made from. Even if they do light up in the barrel they can't add all that much heat or pressure to what's already going on in the barrel. Or can they?

FrownerHardly any lit up anywhere; in the barrel or in the air. They did ,however deposit a lot of granular material in the barrel after each shot. The rifle went from something around 1.000" to over 3.000" at 100 yds.Oh! It happened all right. CRYBABYroger


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Bart,

How old were they?
 
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Yup, bet the "granular material" was what did it in. Bummer.
 
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How old were they?

popcornDon,t really know. This was about 1958 and someone made up a whole machine gun belt of tracers. I suspect they were WWII vintage. beer roger


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I have shot a lot of tracers with no problems, except starting some fires... shocker

However here is a random thought. When fired the pressure on the back of the bullet is, say several thousands...

So do you really think that any of that tracer material gets out the back of the bullet, before it leaves the barrel???

If thise tracers were WWII they no doubt had corossive primers.
The chunks od stuff left in the barrel would have been unburnt powder.


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Back in the day when I was an M60 gunner, we ran the tracers every 5th round...when we used them. We were always told you didn't want to run them any more often then that, because it was hard on the barrels, but I don't recall what the reason was.
 
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I have shot a lot of tracers with no problems, except starting some fires... shocker

However here is a random thought. When fired the pressure on the back of the bullet is, say several thousands...

So do you really think that any of that tracer material gets out the back of the bullet, before it leaves the barrel???

If thise tracers were WWII they no doubt had corossive primers.
The chunks od stuff left in the barrel would have been unburnt powder.

fishingVery possible. beerroger


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