Is H110 suitable for .45 ACP? Has anyone tried a load with any success?

Is H110 uaeable in any 12 gauge load?

I'm interested in this because of a source on the net that is offering pulled surplus powder (H110 equivalent) for 60 dollars per 8 pounds. The savings, especially in the 12 guage are what's attracting me.

Not suitable for .45 ACP.
Very suitable for .454 Casull.
I have seen some shotgun loads for H110. Will look in Hodgdon manual ...

H110 is a decent 410 bore shotgun powder, but to slow for a 12 gauge loads. Never thought of using it in a 45ACP, but I know that Blue Dot does a surprisingly good job in +P loads.

No good for .45ACP.

Don't know about shotgun, but I doubt it.

H110 is more of a magnum pistol powder.
41, 44, 454, 475, 480, 500 and the like.

Very limited in shotgun, I think I have only ever seen data for big 3 or 3.5 " shells.

-Spencer

H110 is great im magnum pistol loads ( as in 357 etc.. )

Try something else for 45 ACP , PLEASE !

If you are looking for cheap bulk powder , try
WWW.gibrass.COM
or
WWW.grafs.COM
See the closeouts on Vectan / Noblesport powders.


Travis F.

Thanks for the info guys. I'll load it for my .44 and try a 7.62x25 load I found... I'll use wsf for the 12 and .45 acp.

That isn't equivilant to H110, it is approximately the same speed. It does not have the do not reduce requirement. Go to the cast bullet board and ask. It is heavily used by cast shooters.

From GIBrass website mentioned in TBS' reply:

http://www.gibrass.com/gunpowder.html

WC820(n) Orignal application is for the U.S. Cal. .30 Carbine Ball M1 round. This
lot loads at 14gr with 110gr FMJ projectile. This is a ball powder which
can be loaded using Accurate Arms #9 (AA#9) data.
This is new ball powder.
$56/8# jug.

Hitech lists it at the same speed as H110. Again that's speed.

http://hi-techammo.com/

I have used the gibrass WC820 powder for several years. Load it in 357 Mag, 454 Cassull, and heavy 45 colt. It is more like AA #9 than H110. Have had good luck with it.

I got a jug of wc820 from hi tech a couple years back. It is a good deal faster than H-110! Loading it in my Ruger SBH, I was a good 1.5 - 2.0 grains less than max H-110 loads for less velocity and higher pressure.This was with hard cast 240 and 250 griners out of a lee 4 cavity mold.

Never tried it in any other applications, it would be a good load for 3" .410 shotgun loads. If I ever get around to trying it in my .357, it would work well for that too.

Others on the net have also said to treat it like aa#9.

Has anyone used H110, W296, or Lil'Gun for heavy shot field loads in the 12 gauge shotgun? If so what did you do where are they published?

quote:

Originally posted by Ackley Improved User:
Has anyone used H110, W296, or Lil'Gun for heavy shot field loads in the 12 gauge shotgun? If so what did you do where are they published?

Not and they will not either. This powder is completely inappropriate for use in a 12 ga.
Get the Winchester, Alliant and Hogdon annual flyers and read up. You wouldn't put 5010 in a .223 would you?

quote:

Originally posted by Ackley Improved User:
Has anyone used H110, W296, or Lil'Gun for heavy shot field loads in the 12 gauge shotgun? If so what did you do where are they published?

NO.
But, if you want max velocity 12 Ga. loads look at Hodgdon's LONGSHOT. If you want more power get a 10 Ga. Seriously this stuff rocks in 12 Ga! , even CLARK would approve...
WWW.Hodgdon.COM


Travis F.

quote:

Is H110 suitable for .45 ACP? Has anyone tried a load with any success?

Is H110 uaeable in any 12 gauge load?

I forgot to add that Winchester 296 is the same powder as H110. So you can also confirm that it is not usable in a 12 ga or a 45 ACP by looking in a Winchester data booklet.

Ditto on Longshot...and it works well in the 45 ACP.

quote:

Originally posted by Sabot:
Ditto on Longshot...and it works well in the 45 ACP.

ABSOLUTELY !

Also not half bad in 357 Mag for less flash and bang than H110 ( not that this powder makes a good low flash powder, but there is less than with H110 ).

IMHO W296 is just slightly faster than H110.
YMMV but I have been able to stuff more H110 in a 357 than W296 with the same pressure.
(I used my " spider sense " to calculate pressure within 4 PSI.)
OK that was a joke...


Travis F.

WC820 is definitely faster than H110. I find that it is closer to 2400. For the .45 acp it is hard to beat Bullseye or W231.

IIRC, 296 is OK for 410 Ga loads, so 110 should be OK also. But, never in a 12 gage.
Don

If you are looking on the web for an appropriate surplus powder for 12 gauge and 45 ACP, then try gibrass.com. His #102 really does follow AA#2 load data.
You would need to work up a load for 12 gauge, but it should be OK for 12 gauge target and some field loads.
Another powder he has as HS-7 equivalent WC820(f) This powder should be good for your heavier field loads in 12 gauge.
I have also loaded 10.0 grains behind a 230 grain lead round nose with CCI-350 primers for a touch over 910 FPS in 45 ACP. Magnum primers were needed to get this powder to burn cleaner. This load shows slight primer cratering in my gun, so back off at least 2 grains...
Good luck!
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