I am thinking of trying some 60 grain Noslers in my CZ 222 for deer. My Rifle has a 1:14in twist, is this fast enough for this weight of bullet. I can always stay with the 50/55 grainers but just fancied a change. Anyone got any experience with these at all?

John

With my CZ 527 American in .222 the best I could get with any 60 gr. bullet was about 3" at 100 yds. Not what I would call great. IMHO the .224 cal rifles are marginal for any but the smallest deer and relie too heavily on bullet construction. Move up a little in rifle. roger

Roger,

I am aware of that and usually use my 6.5 swede as my go to deer gun, but 222 are ideal for the little roe deer that we have, and they fall easily enough to a 50 grain bullet. I was just wondering about a slightly heavier round and I guess your CZ 222 3" experience, even allowing for differences in individual riles,has pretty much answered my question, thanks a lot

John

jayb,
my 223 has a 1-14 twist also and it shoots speer semi-spitzer 70 grainers very well.
your tripple duce(222) should shoot 60 grainer s fine,nosler 60 grain partition is one great bullet.
regards

The Sierra 63 grain semi pointed bullet was once advertised as suitable for 14 twist barrels.

So ask Sierra about it. If the Nosler bullet is longer than the Sierra then it porbaly will not work. It is the length that is the determinant.

I shot several deer on a Texas hunt with less bullet than that in a snubnosed .222 (16.25")

Bullet placement is critical....but it'll stop them with amazement.....properly placed!

I don't own a .22 CF (yet), but will give you two instances that prove to me they have no place deer hunting:

I was in the TX Hill Country with a friend on his lease, and he came to me to ask if I would help him find a deer. We looked for over an hour, and finally found the doe, shot amidships, with no blood trail period. I know, bad shot placement, but I emphasize, no blood trail...
Following year: same song, second verse. In the Hill Country, and I am out there again, looking for a deer he shot with his .223 and 60-gr. Nosler Partitions. She was leaking out both sides, but only a drip here and there, nothing solid. We ended up on hands and knees looking for single drops, and finding them roughly 10' apart... We found the deer, hole through both lungs, dead roughly 600 yards away.
I told him if he shot another deer with his .223 I was going to tie a knot in the barrel.

Now; if you believe that a deer needs to tell you where it is going, you probably are better off with a bigger caliber. Will they kill? Yes, without a question... But are they going to run? Probably, and that to me is the bigger issue. They will probably not leak enough to give you an easy blood trail to follow, and that to me is why a bigger caliber is needed.

One guy's opinion...

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my 223 has a 1-14 twist also and it shoots speer semi-spitzer 70 grainers very well.
your tripple duce(222) should shoot 60 grainer s fine,nosler 60 grain partition is one great bullet.

I've had great success with Speer 70 grain Semi-Spitzers in .224 caliber centerfires with a 1:12 twist. It's interesting that they're good in a 1:14 twist barrel as well. I've had other bullets of about the same weight keyhole on me so other "heavy" bullets may not work.

As for the Speer's performance on deer; I've taken two whitetails with them including one with a 222 and both with one shot. If the bullet is placed properly it performs very well and meat damage is minimal.

Thank you all for your replies. I have no wish to rekindle the flames of the "22 Cf not enough gun" debate, that to my mind is a purely personal thing. We can all quote instances of a 308 being better than a 222 and vice versa, and in a lot of cases have personal experience. So I am sorry I mentioned the deer word in the same sentence as 222, so lets make out I didn't and i will try the 60 gr noslers as being suitable for that twist.

Thank you all.

John

Hi John,my Sako 1-14" shoots 60grs Partitions and 63grs SMP Sierras sub inch no problem.Each barrel is different,load em up and give them a try.If you havent bought the bullets yet give the Sierras a go first,they're cheaper if you're CZ doesn't like em.keep on them Sika!cheers Toby

jay b,
your question was a good one no need
to be sorry at all. many people are at different skill levels in shooting,etc. etc. etc.noslers 60 partition was made for deer,as was TBBC (TROPHY BONDED BEAR CLAWS) 55 grainer,heck barnes made a 45,50,53,grain x bullet. forgot to tell you my 1st cousin uses his 222 rem for ear shooting our big wisconsin deer, bang flop rite there,oh bye the way he owns a 308 and a 30-06 also,but has enjoyed his 222 for the past 4,5 years,
regards