HERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF RELOADING WIERDNESS......I HAD RELOADED SOME ROUNDS FOR A FRIENDS RUGER REVOLVER USEING MY USUAL METHODS AND IT SEEMS THEY FIT THE CHAMBERS REALLY TIGH...HE SAYS HE HAD TO POUND SOME IN ....BUT THEY RATTLE IN MY MODEL 27 CHAMBERS.... HOW CAN I MAKE EM WORK IN HIS GUN?? I HAVE THOUGHT OF TAPER CRIMPING THEM AND SEEING IF THAT WORKS BUT I'M WONDERING ABOUT TOO HIGH OF A PRESSURE FROM SUCH EXERCISE.....ANYONE HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS??

Hi, tasco. Pardon me if I seem to be speaking down to your friend(no such intent exists), but is there any chance he has a ring of fouling in the front of the charge holes from firing .38's? Or perhaps the charge holes are fouled up from neglect?

I recently bought a Ruger SP101 from a gentleman who had fired .38's in it almost exclusively. Though he had cleaned it regularly, he didn't get all of that ring out, and I was barely able to chamber .357's.

Probably not the problem, but I thought it wouldn't hurt to mention it.

Other than that, if the cases are the standard size and they don't fit, I wouldn't know what to tell you.

Tasco,

I have never had any problems with taper crimping handgun rounds. I have yet to see any pressure signs from it.

Tim

I've taper crimped 1000's of hangun rounds (38, 357, 9mm, 44mag, 45acp), no excessive pressure signs whatsoever.

thanks for all the quick replies guys....i had thought about dirty chambers but how do ya tell a guy he don't know enough to clean his weapon??the loads were roll crimped with a lee speed die and like i said they fit my smith &wesson perfectly..........i bet he has a bunch of crud in his chambers like you mentioned.........

One of the best crimp dies that I bought for my .357 was the Redding Profile Crimp die. I had a RCBS but it put on lousy crimp, tried Lee taper crimp, but the profile crimp die is the best for a good heavy roll crimp, plus it irons your case down anywhere it's puffed out a little so it fits in any spec chamber. BM

Bill

Tasco, as has been suggested, a "fire ring" could have built up inside the Ruger's cylinder from firing all the 38's and it could be more than just fouling. It could actually be surface erosion in the cylinders, something we aren't going to brush away.

Also, there could just simply be enough difference in your pistol's chambers the same as can occur between rifles.

Are you resizing your cases ALL the way down?

Some guns just have such bloody tight chambers that they are a pain to reload for.

The only time I experienced a similar problem was with a particular batch of military 38 brass. Apparently it was so thick that if I loaded a cast bullet in the thing, I couldn't get it to chamber. If I did a taper crimp, then they would work fine. But I solved the problem forever by simply throwing all that batch of brass in the trash. I don't have time to play games with problem brass.

Your problem with the friend's ammo has to be one of the above, I think. Good luck.

yep pecos they are full lenth resized with the carbide sizer on the speed die..think i'll taper crimp a few with the taper crimp die but the speed die is supposed to have a modified taper crimp that goes into a roll crimp if i understand it right..........

Leftover, I agree. If it looks like a fire ring in the cylinder from steady diet of 38's, I would just tell the guy and explain the situation to him. The lesson shouldn't be offensive but educational. A lot of shooters don't realize such a thing is possible from firing short cartridges in a gun.

Furthermore, a lot of guys really don't know how to properly clean a weapon. A good percentage of weapons that come in to a gunsmith with feeding and extraction problems are nothing but the gun needing a good cleaning. I've known some shooters who WON'T clean their guns...but take them to the gunsmith at the end of season and pay him to do it.

(I wonder if they pay someone to shoot and gut their game for them?)

I MIGHT BE WIERD BUT I LIKE TO CLEAN MY GUNS AFTER SHOOTING EM....I LIKE TO SEE THE BARREL AND CHAMBERS SCRUBBED CLEAN AN ALL SHINEY................