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In terms of accuracy, what is the most important factor of reloading (bullet seating depth, optimal powder charge, consistent powder charge, uniform case volume, etc)? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "All our liberties are due to men who, when their conscience has compelled them, have broken the laws of the land." -- William Kingdon Clifford | ||
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Consistancy. Same brass, not mixed bag. Fairly consistant powder, within +/-.1 gr. Consistant seat and crimp. If your trying to optimize a load start with varying powder charge once you get the tightest group then play with seating depth. One other note. Mixed primers will change point of impact. Even the same make in a different lot can change poi, group size may not change but poi can. A bad day at the range is better than a good day at work. | |||
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I wish I could say....seems most of my rifles have a different opinion. ________________________________________________ Maker of The Frankenstud Sling Keeper Proudly made in the USA Acepting all forms of payment | |||
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To answer your specific question: optimal powder charge. Concentricity and consistency is what you need in all aspects of handloading. Everything you do makes some partial difference in the results, some more than others. Member NRA, SCI- Life #358 28+ years now! DRSS, double owner-shooter since 1983, O/U .30-06 Browning Continental set. | |||
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That's like asking what is more important to beauty? Hair color, build, complexion, or? If it all isn't there in harmony, you probably won't get the results you are seeking. Sorry, I hope that isn't too Zen. Have gun- Will travel The value of a trophy is computed directly in terms of personal investment in its acquisition. Robert Ruark | |||
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Agreed. I think it even trumps consistency. If one has a bad load for HIS rifle, it doesn't matter how consistently he dulicates it. It will still be a bad load...a consistently bad one. My country gal's just a moonshiner's daughter, but I love her still. | |||
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No question about it....it's picking the right bullet!.....After that's done it's picking the right powder and after than it's hundreds of little things. /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill | |||
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When seeking a load for a new rifle, I always start with testing different bullets. I seem to get more accuracy improvement by changing the particular bullet choice than from changing any other variable, at least in the beginning. Regards, Joe __________________________ You can lead a human to logic but you can't make him think. NRA Life since 1976. God bless America! | |||
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A quality bullet whose length is appropriate for the chamber and twist. | |||
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x2 1. bullet 2. powder and charge weight (regulating bullet exit timing) 3. acceptable brass (<.003" variance in neck thickness) 4. acceptable concentricity (<.004" TIR) 5. sizing method (PNS, PFLR, FL) 6. bullet grip 7. seating depth consistancy 8. seating depth 9. primer type 10. consistancy in all the above Now the firearm itself (barrel, bedding, squareness of the action, etc) and the ability of the shooter trump all the above. ____________________________________ There are those who would misteach us that to stick in a rut is consistency - and a virtue, and that to climb out of the rut is inconsistency - and a vice. - Mark Twain | Chinese Proverb: When someone shares something of value with you and you benefit from it, you have a moral obligation to share it with others. ___________________________________ | |||
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Consistency with all components. | |||
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Having a good homebrew right there... | |||
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Everything counts, a great barrel comes first on the list. Read this> Reloading for Benchrest. | |||
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If all else is equal with out a doubt CONSISTANTCY is the GOD of accuracy in all firearm types, not just CF rifles. | |||
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YES 99% of the democrats give the rest a bad name. "O" = zero NRA life member | |||
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I will add this as well. I have been blessed with owning two rifles that will shoot most of what I feed them into or below .7 MOA at 100yrds, one more often than not will give me .5 MOA. I asked my self just how small could I get these rifles to shoot? The reloading equipment I had (and mostly still have) was pretty basic. No neck turning tools or concenticity gauges and realy no other types of specialty reloading tools. I also only used Winchester brass. Keep in mind this was in the days prior to me getting married and becomming a dad so I had enough "disposable income" that I could have used $20s for TP. So I called and spoke to the tech reps at Sinclrare Int. Told them what I was shooting and what reloading equipment I had and the level of accuracy I was getting. I asked him his advice on invseting considerable $$$ on neck turning tools and other specialty reloading tools normaly reserved for the bench rest crowd. His reply was surprisingly truthful. In short he asked me if I was willing to spend over $100-$300 for every .125" I "might" reduce my group size by? because I would end up spending $100s of dollars to at best shrink a.5" group down to .3". He reminded me that after all I owned 100% factory rifles and the accuracy I was getting was a level I should be beyond happy with as it stood. I agreed with him. I also called Redding and got a similar responce. So I did not spend any additional $$$ on any bench rest type of reloading tools and have never thought twice about it. | |||
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