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170 Gr Controlled Fracturing Loads? 45 ACP
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Unable to get the data from the Lehigh Defence website. I need .45 ACP standard pressure loads for the 170 gr. May use them in the N frame ('37 Brazilian 2.25" barrel) as well as a couple 1911s. Anyone have standard pressure loads? Thanks for your time. Packy
 
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Not scripture but it will get you there:

Cartridge : .45 Auto (ACP) (CIP)
Bullet : .451, 185, Barnes TAC-XP 45108
Useable Case Capaci: 9.110 grain H2O = 0.591 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 1.275 inch = 32.39 mm
Barrel Length : 2.3 inch = 57.2 mm
Powder : Alliant RED DOT

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2,0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-20,0 69 2,88 603 149 12494 3647 92,4 0,460
-18,0 71 2,95 616 156 13032 3758 93,1 0,451
-16,0 72 3,02 629 162 13585 3868 93,9 0,442
-14,0 74 3,10 641 169 14155 3977 94,5 0,434
-12,0 76 3,17 654 175 14741 4084 95,2 0,426
-10,0 78 3,24 666 182 15343 4190 95,8 0,418
-08,0 79 3,31 678 189 15962 4294 96,3 0,411
-06,0 81 3,38 690 196 16597 4397 96,8 0,404 ! Near Maximum !
-04,0 83 3,46 702 203 17249 4498 97,3 0,397 ! Near Maximum !
-02,0 84 3,53 714 210 17919 4598 97,7 0,390 ! Near Maximum !
+00,0 86 3,60 726 216 18605 4695 98,1 0,384 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02,0 88 3,67 738 224 19310 4791 98,5 0,377 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04,0 90 3,74 749 231 20031 4883 98,8 0,371 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06,0 91 3,82 761 238 20771 4974 99,1 0,365 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08,0 93 3,89 772 245 21529 5063 99,3 0,360 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10,0 95 3,96 783 252 22306 5150 99,5 0,354 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 86 3,60 758 236 21418 4648 100,0 0,363 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 86 3,60 684 192 15847 4544 92,7 0,414
 
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packrattusnongratus:


There is load data on their website perfectly available: https://cdn.shopify.com/s/file...olled_Fracturing.pdf

In my pistol, I use 1.236 COAL instead of 1.230 listed in their manual and Vectan SP2 powder.

Jiri
 
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I can't open the data page on my computer for some reason. That's why I asked. I need something like 231 or something common in the US. Thanks for the data though.
 
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Originally posted by packrattusnongratus:
I can't open the data page on my computer for some reason. That's why I asked. I need something like 231 or something common in the US. Thanks for the data though.


Here is a screenshot from their "data page":
 
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Thanks. When I click on the ACP loads it comes up with a blank screen.
 
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Any Unique loads?
 
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No,

that is all they published. But can be simulated in QuickLoad easy:



1.23 COAL, simulated for 5" barrel:

5gr - 12204 PSI - 855 fps
5.5gr - 14730 PSI - 932 fps
6gr - 17660 PSI - 1007 fps
6.4gr - 20324 PSI - 1066 fps

But this is SIMULATION ONLY. No guarantee!
Start low, work up and use chrono.

Jiri
 
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Are these frangible bullets? If so, don't use loading data for ANY jacketed or plated bullet. Don't believe you can use data for monolithic bullets (all copper) either. Thus, use data from manufacturer.
Richard Lee's #2 manual has data for frangible bullets.
 
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Originally posted by noylj:
Are these frangible bullets? If so, don't use loading data for ANY jacketed or plated bullet. Don't believe you can use data for monolithic bullets (all copper) either. Thus, use data from manufacturer.
Richard Lee's #2 manual has data for frangible bullets.


noylj:

If you spend 30 seconds with google, you will find these are monolithic copper bullets. Finding your post absolutely useless.

Of course I reload these bullets and many others for a while and compare QL calculations with real world data.

Jiri
 
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