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I am having problems with an RCBS powder check lock out die on my Pro2000 progressive indexed press.

New out of the box it would not operate properly. One turn it would jam against the case rim and not complete the cycle, on the next try it would go down but the rod would be off by almost an inch in measuring the powder, another time it would work fine. The die was sent to RCBS for warranty repair and arrived back here today. The die still has the same problem.

If anyone else experienced problems of this type what is the problem and how did you solve it?

Also do I even need to use a die of this type or can the system be trusted to give the correct powder charge erery time?

Thanks.

Ken.
 
Posts: 106 | Location: Ontario | Registered: 04 February 2008Reply With Quote
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Sounds like it need some fine tuning. I still like the regular powder check die with the
o-ring
http://ultimatereloader.com/tag/rcbs-lock-out-die/
 
Posts: 2134 | Location: Ohio | Registered: 26 June 2000Reply With Quote
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That video link explains everything needed to understand how the system works.

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Posts: 106 | Location: Ontario | Registered: 04 February 2008Reply With Quote
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Follow up.

I contacted RCBS and they said the die was to alert the op if the powder measure was out of powder or if the press was not indexed and a double charge was created by not forwarding the cases.

I never let the powder measure run below half way and my press is indexed hence the die if of no use to me. An exchange has been arranged.

RCBS really does have an impressive customer service policy.
 
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If it hits the case rim, you have the wrong "foot"installed or the press is not indexing properly.
The instructions need a LOT of improvement.
 
Posts: 130 | Location: AZ | Registered: 17 July 2010Reply With Quote
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The lock-out die is VERY sensitive and could almost be used to set the powder measure.
If you don't inspect EVERY charged case before you put a bullet on to be seated, you really should have the Lock-Out die installed.
It does more than just lock up if there is no powder or twice the amount of powder. It will catch partial charges (when some powder hangs up in the measure) or partial over-charges (when the "hung-up" powder drops into the next case.
The regular "powder cops" rely on the reloader looking at it while cycling the press but, if you can't inspect every charged case by eye, you aren't going to be looking at the powder cop die every time.
I think from the posting that the OP may not be that familiar with reloading and what the importance of charged case inspection really is.
 
Posts: 130 | Location: AZ | Registered: 17 July 2010Reply With Quote
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The foot was the small size used for .38/.357 but it turns out the rod was bent.

Actually I have been using a rock chucker press - single stage - for over 35 years. I weigh and inspect every rifle case in all seven calibers used, and weigh every tenths load with pistol rounds for three calibers and inspect every one before installing the bullet.

This Pro2000 indexed press is my first and only progressive press and wanted the lock out die to be sure the loads were correct. It was a senior RCBS tech rep who told me the die was specifically designed for used with non indexed progressive presses to avoid both double loads by failing to advance the case and to alert the op to the fact they ran out of powder. He said it was not needed in indexed presses if attention was paid to keeping the powder hopper properly loaded.

I think the visual powder load die is what I will use and safety is always my number one priority.

I do appreciate the feedback. Thank you.
 
Posts: 106 | Location: Ontario | Registered: 04 February 2008Reply With Quote
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