Had anyone used these dies? I read that the bushing will size the case neck while the die pushes the case shoulder back to your desired dimension. It doesn't mention if the body of the case is resized as well. If it is not sizing the body, it would be a nice die to use. Currently I am using a Redding bushing neck die and when the cartridge chambers with an overly tight fit, I have to use a body die to bump the shoulder back, but this die also sizes the body, which means that in effect I am partial full length sizing my cases every 5 reloads or so, and I have to in effect "fire form" the cases to get them back to chamber specs. Am I splitting hairs?
Any comments please?
Rifle is a Remington 700 bdl with a shilen barrel in 7mm08.

I've used the Redding body die in conjunction with a lee collet die and love it. The body die doesn't really seem to squeeze down the case much. BUT my gun cannot tell the difference between that and FL ammo done with my Forester dies. YOu gotta a heck of a barrel on that rifle....I don't think it will know the difference between the methods you are talking about in your post.....maybe you'll tell me different but I'm guessing you make pretty good ammo with your current setup.

My understanding is that it is Forster that has a new bushing neck-sizing die that bumps the shoulder without sizing the case body. It also uses proprietary bushings. As far as I know, there is nothing special about the Hornady match dies other than their being nice pieces.

I normally wrestle with Hornady Dies...

however, In this one they have a winner.. I have it in 22 cal, 6mm, 6.5 mm, 7 mm and 30 cal short...

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Originally posted by seafire2:
I normally wrestle with Hornady Dies...

however, In this one they have a winner.. I have it in 22 cal, 6mm, 6.5 mm, 7 mm and 30 cal short...

Do the neck dies bump the shoulder back?

I adjust them until the case will chamber in the rifle easily...

When it gets too snug, I full length size it again.. so I am gathering that it is not bumping the shoulder back...

I just know it increases case life substantially...

According to the Hornady website, the Match grade reloading dies are offered in 2 styles namely the full length sizing die and the necksizing die with a shoulder bumping action.Both systems use bushing.
Currently they offer the dies in 22-250, 223, 243, 6mm PPC, 6mmBR and .308 Win.
I dont see a 6.5 or 7mm yet, so Im thinking that you might have the normal dies, Seafire2

According to this review, the neck sizer does bump the shoulder.

From MidWay's customer reviews:

Review:
When I first saw the Hornady Match Grade neck die I didn't think too much of it. Redding already has a line of dies called Type S dies which uses the bushing method to size the necks (I own these dies for .308), so the Hornady die isn't anything new. But after reading through the product page on Hornady's website, I realized the true potential of the Hornady match neck die: it bumps the shoulder. Why is this so great? Even if you neck size your brass, the brass will start getting too hard to chamber. This is because the shoulder is starting to push forward so much after repeated firings and needs to be set back in order to chamber properly, which is when full length sizing comes into play. To bump the shoulder using a full length die or a body die, the reloader would only screw in the die down far enough to get the shoulder bumped down within the specs of the chamber of the respective firearm, and thus minimizing the sizing of the whole casing. But the problem with this is that even if you were to screw down a full length or body die the minimum distance necessary to bump the shoulder, you would still end up resizing the body itself, which is completely unnecessary and unwanted. But Hornady's die improved the design of the Redding Type S neck only die by designing their die to not only neck size based on user selected bushings, but also to bump the shoulder without sizing any part of the body. Now reloaders can continue to neck size prolonging the life of their brass without worrying about having to switch to a full length or body die to bump the shoulder back. The Hornady bushings are different than the Redding bushings, so if you own Redding Type S die bushings already, you will need to buy Hornady's if you want to use Hornady's match neck die. Also, Hornady currently only has bushings in sizes in .002" increments. For example, they have .332", .334", and .336" bushings, but not .333", .335", or .337". I haven't found this to be a problem though. For the longest time I used the Redding Type S dies (FL and neck) using a .335" bushing with Lapua brass and Sierra MatchKing 175gr BTHP. When I bought the Hornady match neck die, I ended up using the .334" bushing and after chronographing the rounds I made using this die, I didn't see any difference in performance than if I had used my Redding die(s) and .335" bushings. I highly recommend the Hornady match neck die. I only hope positive feedback to Hornady will encourage them to make this die for other calibers besides .308 (and 22-250, .223, .243, and 6mm PPC).