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Ridiculous Wildcats!
11 May 2002, 02:14
<seven17>Ridiculous Wildcats!
Thought I put a post in purely for entertainment value for you to vote on the most ridiculous wildcat you have seen or dreamed up. I'm talking about 308s necked up to 7.5mm, .311 Weatherby mags and 32-40 improved and other oddballs. Hopefully you we won't offend someone who has tried these! Let your imagination run!
11 May 2002, 03:09
<eldeguello>.32/40 Improved!! Isn't that what we call a ".32 Winchester Special"?
11 May 2002, 03:50
craigsterSee the June issue of Guns and Ammo. You can read all about the CBS.30. BFD. The term "gunrag" must have originated with this magazine.
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11 May 2002, 04:06
<centerpunch>11 May 2002, 08:22
<JerrBear356>How about the tried and trued .17/50BMG. I have actually seen one in a book somewhere.
11 May 2002, 08:39
rick3foxesIs that the one with three shoulders?
Rick.
11 May 2002, 09:49
Pecos41quote:
Originally posted by JerrBear356:
How about the tried and trued .17/50BMG. I have actually seen one in a book somewhere.
Now that would be a barrel burner! If the bullet didn't kill them, the molten metal coming out the barrel would.
Can you say, "What barrel life?"
11 May 2002, 13:25
Ray GunterThis may not be the most rediculous wildcat but its one of the most unique.
I have a couple cases sent to me by an acquaintence gunsmith. The case is a 22 caliber in an 06 case. Heres the catch it has 2 shoulders. The first shoulder is about the same location as a 308 Win. and the 308 neck forms the body for the second shoulder which reduces it to 22.
Very interesting design. What the advantages are I'm uncertain. But it sure is a conversation maker.
Ray
11 May 2002, 13:35
captnemo[...... The case is a 22 caliber in an 06 case. Heres the catch it has 2 shoulders. The first shoulder is about the same location as a 308 Win. and the 308 neck forms the body for the second shoulder which reduces it to 22.
Ray[/B][/QUOTE]
This sounds as if someone put a 22 cal bullet into military blank! These have a shoulder at -06 length (I believe at the position of the bullet meeting the grooves) and another shoulder for the regular 308. the_captn
11 May 2002, 15:30
TGetzenDidn't the famed "Herter's Magnum" line of cartridges have double, radiused shoulders? I'm not sure if they were belted or not...
But I think they did make a "224 Herter Magnum."
Todd
ED: correction of above -- I guess they wrote about them, can't say for sure if they ever saw light of day.
[This message has been edited by Todd Getzen (edited 05-11-2002).]
12 May 2002, 03:54
<seven17>Has anyone ever heard of the .224 Weatherby being necked up or down? I know with that boltface it would be expensive but that doesn't stop a true wildcatter!
The one I heard about with the 50 BMG is to neck it down to shoot phonograph needles.
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.223 Ackley Improved Wildcat Forum:
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I saw Boddington's 30 CBS or whatever he calls it... 300 H&H "blown-out"... guess he hadn't heard the wheel has already been invented.
BA
At this point velocity and performance have been covered. All that's left is a small change in shoulder angle and body taper. That's all that the .30 cbs has to offer. When you bring in the 4000+ fps 220 gr .30 cal cartridge, call me. Otherwise it's just an exercize in vanity and futility.
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Thanks Chuck!
13 May 2002, 20:20
<Sniper06>OK folks, I have a couple which I hope are not rediculous...a .50 BMG IMP. necked out to .75 cal, the .416 Rigby IMP, necked to 50 cal,as big game rounds, and the puney little 7.62X39 case improved and necked to .358", with VLD bullets as a whisper cartridge? Hope these aren't too wild as I want them all, and have started work on the last one listed as a whisper round.
14 May 2002, 04:38
Bill LeeperThe Herters cartridges did featuer the double shoulder. According to Herters this design revolutionized cartridge design and caused previous beliefs to be thrown out the window. Apparently the rest of the world was not convinced. I've never actually seen a rifle chambered in one of these and have no plans to buy a reamer myself. Regards, Bill.