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Hello everyone. I am new to reloading and have yet to load my first round. I was in Scheels All-Sports and purchased my first kit. I am reloading .270 Win rounds w/130 grain soft point. The Sales girl sold me a pound of Alliant Powder Reloading 10x, and all the data I can find on-line says the exact same as the label. My ? is, can I use this for my reloads, and, if yes, what is the reccomended measure to use? | ||
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#1). You need to go to a gun show and buy 6 or 12 used reloading manuals and STUDY THEM. You will find one that "reads easier" for you. Go buy the current issue for current data. This will give you the information TO BE SAFE! You are playing, "you bet your life." Please be wise and safe. #2). alliantpowder.com has data on line. They say they will be down for a week or so for work. You will need to keep checking. So check back unless you can find a printed manual. Dealers used to have free ones. Pamphlets. Please don't "wing it." #3). If you are going to underload... IF, the .270 WCF was the original hot rod at 55K CUP [55,000 Copper Units of Pressure] in 1926 approx., then the LEE Dippers are o.k. as a measure. If you want "all that it has got" you need a scale. You weigh CAREFULLY each charge as recommended in the manual. And start low and work up... Please. Then you shoot the loads for accuracy. .270 has been small improved upon in 75 years. Nice all around round. (.27/'06 really, US used to leave fired brass where you could pick it up free and neck to .27, the good old days.) Be safe. ENJOY. Luck. P.S. H4831 made its name in the .270. R10 seems a trifle fast unless you plan on p'dogs with 85 grain bullets... Manuals will make this clear to you. luck. | |||
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You want a different powder. The fastest Alliant powder that the Lyman manual recommends for 130 gr. spitzer bullets is RL12, which is a heck of lot faster than H4831. Exchanging the Alliant 10x for Hodgon H4831 would be appropriate; my Lyman manual shows 53.0 to 60.0(Maximum) gr. Didn't a manual and the mentioned pamphlets come with your kit? Assume you have a scale; otherwise, you need one. The density conversions provided with the Lee dippers (if that's what you have) should not be relied upon. Read the manuals, and then find a mentor to guide you through the process if you can. Pay particular attention to the information on pressure and the signs of over-pressure. Learn first. OJT works by the student's making mistakes, and reloading is no place to make mistakes. The Lyman manual is comprehensive, and the Speer and Hornady books are also good. You know where you can ask questions. . | |||
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Loneeagle721, Welcome to the forum. RL 10 is quite fast for the 270 so if you have not opened the jar take it back and exchange it. RL 22 would be better as its slower burning and more suited to the 270. Get a few manuals as suggested and always compare data from one source to another. There is a lot of data online these days from the powder manufacturers etc. RL 10 burns just a little faster than IMR's 3031. I use RL 10 in the 358 Win. which has a much different expansion ratio than the 270. Read up and get back to us. Get the 'power' or optic that your eye likes instead of what someone else says. When we go to the doctor they ask us what lens we like! Do that with your optics. | |||
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OK, let's get something straight, I am not the 17 year old idiot that you seem to think I am. I am 36 and have been around fire arms my ENTIRE life. I never "wing it" with anything explosive. Why do you think I'm researching and asking for "experienced" advice? I don't know where you got the idea from my post that I plan to under load or load with out measuring. All I did was ask if the powder was the right powder, if not then I return it and do it right. I got all the right equipment and know how to use it. | |||
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Thank you Savage_99 and Winchester 69 for your replies. This is what I needed to know. I am reading and researching and asking ?s before I start. I know the dangers and don't take any un-nescessary chances. The bottle is still sealed and will be returned. I figured the RL 10 was the wrong powder, hence I decided to ask, rather than take a chance. | |||
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A few other powers good for 270.... IMR 4350 H4350 (NOT the same as IMR 4350) Reloader 19 Win 760 Here's a helpful data link for Wincheser, IMR, and Hogdon powers. http://data.hodgdon.com/main_menu.asp Jason | |||
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270 with 130gr bullets and Rem 9.1/2 primers = 57-60grs of H-4831 THAT COMBO WAS MADE FOR ONE ANOTHER. Eagles from above | |||
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I don't believe anything that has been offered here was intended to offend. Many, many people post who are rookies, and the replies are always of a cautious nature. Figure that the part about the sales girl choosing your powder sent up warning flags. Stick with us. We're a work in progress.  We also have neat smilie faces. . | |||
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10x was supposed to be Alliant's hot powder for small bore light bullets. .223 rem 45 gr. and the like. If you have a small bore keep it, if you have not opened it and only have the .270, take it back and exchange it. Come to think of it, after my experiences with the pound I bought--maybe you should just take it back, period. If the enemy is in range, so are you. - Infantry manual | |||
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Quickload says that a 24" barrel .270 with Hornady #2730 soft point 130 gr 3.34" with 44 gr Re10: 61,378 psi 2,962 fps 81% case fill Quickload says that a 24" barrel .270 with Hornady #2730 soft point 130 gr 3.34" 45 gr Re10X: 64,918 psi, 3,008 fps, 83% case fill | |||
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Loneeagle- We can be an enthusiastic bunch here. Please don't be offended at the reaction, but no one wants anyone else to blow their fingers off, and we occasionally see those types coming through. Many, if not most, of the members here are very knowledgeable. That's good and that's bad. It can get you an answer far beyond the question you asked and that can muddle things up a bit. However, in our defense, Winchester is right
And I would add the apparent lack of familiarity with the common powders for the chosen caliber coupled with no mention of a reloading manual, which would have revealed many other choices besides 10x. Let us know if you have any other questions. Most of us love to help. And the smiley faces do rock. LWD  | |||
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