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<Johnny Reb>
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I have been reloading for about 2 or 3 years for my pistols, 44-40, 44 mag., 454 casull, and as of this year the FA 475 linebaugh and haven't had any problems to date so far.
My question is I am leaning towards Hornady dies and recently purchased a Marlin 1895 ss and am wondering, since I've never reloaded for a lever action, Remington and Hornady have a 405 and 350 grain round nose bullet and I was wondering as to reloading these and the diameter of the (or-shape) of the round nose as opposed to primer and an accidental chain fire and sticking with strictly with a flat nose configuration, and any suggestions for a nice medium and effective load to use. I am not into break the speed of light or tear my shoulder off, but just a good recipe for a deer (for now) at about 150 yards.
I have hunted with my 454 and 475 the last couple of years and gotten a couple of deer, 1 at 150 yards with the 454 using a 300 gr. xtp and 25.5 grains of 2400 powder. I was using a raging bull with a scope but have taken the scope and put it on my freedom arms 475 to reach out a little farther than 40 yards with open sights like last year with it. I hope to use hand loads in my 95 ss and maybe you fellas with a little more experience than me can give a few pointers.
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Johnny Reb:

The remington 405 gr soft point has a flat nose and will not cause the magazine problem you mentioned. Hornady also makes a 350 gr fp bullet which is (according to Hornady) is pretty much the same as the roundnose but with a flat nose and will not touch the previous primer in the tube magazine.

Don N.

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I use the 350 FP from hornady in my guidegun, it's accurate and holds together pretty well(so I hear I havn't nailed anything with it yet). The 405 remington is also a pretty good bullet and it's a lot more affordable.
 
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405 gr rem bullet works well and is good value !! I load them for my marlin 45/70.
 
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Regardless of what dies you buy, buy a Lee factory crimp die, too. It will spare you lots of headaches.

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I just bought a 1895 SS also and like it a lot. Out to 150 yards any of the factory 300 grain loads will give you what you want for deer and feral hogs. The factory 405's are nice to shoot and I figure they will go through any deer from any angle out to at least 125 yards. All that said my working load is the Remington 405 grain bullet at 1500 fps. I hunt from tree stands a lot and much more recoil than this gives is too much. I also shoot the cheap hardcast bullets Midway sells over the same load of 3031 for practice. I am sure this bullet would be an effective game load also.
 
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I have used Remington 300 grain hollow point bullets in my Marlin 1895 SS to take a 200 # boar at about 25 yards. It worked fine. The load was 59.0 grains of H322 in WW cases. The muzzle velocity was 2090fps. The recoil is fairly heavy, but it should make a good load for deer out to 125 - 150 yards or so. Stick with flat point bullets. The .45/70 is versatile, it handles cast bullets well and light or heavy loads can be worked up for a varity of purposes. I know one thing: you like the rifle and working with it.
 
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DON'T use any bullet that can touch the primer!! A flatnose or hollowpoint is mandatory!! Other than that, loading for the .45/70 is about the same as loading the straight-sided pistol rounds you have been loading, only a little longer!! [Big Grin]
 
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The bearing surface on the 350 gr Hornady FP is the same as the RN.
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Originally posted by dodgestdshift:
Johnny Reb:

The remington 405 gr soft point has a flat nose and will not cause the magazine problem you mentioned. Hornady also makes a 350 gr fp bullet which is (according to Hornady) is pretty much the same as the roundnose but with a flat nose and will not touch the previous primer in the tube magazine.

Don N.

dodgestdshift--Thanks to you and all of you other fellows, I really appreciate the information. I live about 100 miles east of Grand Island, Nebraska , thats where the Hornady plants and I've been there to buy bullets and other stuff a couple of times and called and talked to one of their techs about reloading questions and I will call them and see if they have any of those 350-grain flat nose bullets and get me some of them, but then again I guess I'm rushing things a little cause I haven't bought the dies yet. [Embarrassed] So first things first. I think I'll go the extra mile and order some starline brass and some 350 grain Hornady's or contact Remington and see if they have any 405 gr. flat nose bullets. Again thanks again fellas, I really appreciate the help and information, Have any of you got a favorite recipe for a moderate (not hot) load for either the 350 or 405 grain bullets ? Thanks again, Johnny Reb
 
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Midway carries the Remington 405 bullet at about half the price of Speer or other bullets. I find the Rem bullet to be just as accurate, and with a little luck I'll be able to find out how it performs on game sometime in the next few months.
 
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