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Hi I am so sick of sitting around for the past 02 days so I thought I will start somenthing to stir the pot ........HHAHAH After each hunt I presume most of us reuse any unfired rounds for the next stalk right? Have you thought about the consequenses? OK I habitually bring 08 rounds on a average stalk. My main stalking rifle is a Blaser K95 in 6.5 x 55. One up the chamber and 07 in a garland cammo pouch. A few months ago I decided to test fire the unused rounds and make notes on the atmospheric condition of my previous outing, POI and chrono speeds. OK call me names if you want to (thats the whole point of this thread) on 02 out of 07 batches of ammo will not chrono to the same speed I had loaded them to and further more even more worrying the POI have shifted slightly. I checked my diary and these 02 batches coincides with very very wet and cold conditions. (80%+ humidity and 2 degrees C or below ambient temperature) OK bottom line. I have now deceided to pull ammo (I reload) after a stalk if the day has 80+% humidity or if it has been raining heavily. OK OK OK we are hunting and not talking about bench rest competitions but this is a point nobdy has brought up before. Spare a though for my friends who do not reload...... | ||
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Good point . I have never had any problems though, It could be your powder? Cal30 If it cant be Grown it has to be Mined! Devoted member of Newmont mining company Underground Mine rescue team. Carlin East,Deep Star ,Leeville,Deep Post ,Chukar and now Exodus Where next? Pete Bajo to train newbies on long hole stoping and proper blasting techniques. Back to Exodus mine again learning teaching and operating autonomous loaders in the underground. Bringing everyday life to most individuals 8' at a time! | |||
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Hi I live in London and our atmospheric conditions are really quite damp in the winter hence I mentioned this issue. I suspect things are not that damp in Idaho...... Merry christmas | |||
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Londonhunter, do you use compressed loads? I somehow refuse to believe, that moisture will mess up loads. But I do believe that compressed loads, which get shaken around enough will show a different behaviour than their peers coming straight off the reloading bench. | |||
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I hardly call carrying my ammo around as using it. I have ammo I loaded 10 years ago that still shoots just like it did then and still shoots to the same POI. I have carried this ammo in Idaho, Wyoming, Washington state, Oklahoma and Texas. If you are having problems with moisture contaminating you powder or primers then something is wrong with you reloading. Leftists are intellectually vacant, but there is no greater pleasure than tormenting the irrational. | |||
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powder wil pick up moisture while in a case. if you use a sealer as part of your load development you can help prevent this. and if you doubt humididity during idaho's hunting season.... stop in. bring your boots [both pairs] and your tire chains. | |||
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Did you originally chronograph and sight in under the same conditions in which the "used" ammo was subsequently tested?? E.g. did you load up (sight in and chronograph) your hunting ammo during summer in anticipation of the fall hunting season?? Changing temperatures and (probably to a lesser degree?) changing humidity can and will affect muzzle velocity and thus POI. - mike ********************* The rifle is a noble weapon... It entices its bearer into primeval forests, into mountains and deserts untenanted by man. - Horace Kephart | |||
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The worse culprit is condensation when flying. I now use a vacum bag to store my ammo before I lock them in a metal case and that solves my problem. Just my two pence guys and this cost peanuts......... | |||
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Haven't noticed a lot of difference. I have a lot of handloaded .416 Rigby ammo that has been to Africa twice ... took animals both times. It could go again. Have a lots of 9,3x62 and .375 H&H that went once and could go again. Mike -------------- DRSS, Womper's Club, NRA Life Member/Charter Member NRA Golden Eagles ... Knifemaker, http://www.mstarling.com | |||
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I can now see why the British were so easily beaten in the Revolutionary war. Londonhunter.....you need to spend a lot more time hunting and a lot less time letting the mind wander! /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill | |||
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Just load 1 bullet and go hunting...take no spares. ________________________________________________ Maker of The Frankenstud Sling Keeper Proudly made in the USA Acepting all forms of payment | |||
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If you're reloading in wet weather and weighing the powder charges, you will get more moisture and less powder, making for weaker loads. The climate when the rounds are hunted probably has less influence. ________________________ "Every country has the government it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre | |||
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If you enough ammo left over just check your zero and go hunting. I have had my reloads go through the washing machine and still fire. | |||
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It's the Blaser! I never have that problem with my Sakos.   **************** NRA Life Benefactor Member | |||
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Just to satisfy my own curiosity a few years ago, I loaded 20 identical rounds of 270 Win ammo. Half of the loaded ammo I put in a bowl of very hot water and let it sit overnight. The next day I took all the ammo to the range and shot four 5-shot groups over a chronograph. There was no discernible difference in velocity or accuracy between the soaked ammo and the dry ammo. I don't think I'll be throwing out my ammo just because it spent some time in my pocket or on my belt in humid weather. ______________________________ "Truth is the daughter of time." Francis Bacon | |||
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I can about assure you that the differential is in bench technique, or shooting technique when you test your ammo. From one season to another, or several months between, unless your testing out of a vise, a shift in POI, is usually attributable to form. I have done a lot of shooting at the bench lately, and I have a Sako TRG that is so accurate it is scary. I can tell you that a change in form will result in a change on the target face. Usually not a big one, but a small change in POI, is real easy to achieve achieve if you're not really precise. As to changes in your ammo from sitting around--not too much I think--but it is always good to shoot it up, and reload it!  | |||
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If you think London's cold & damp mate, then you should come up here.......  | |||
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