22 September 2008, 03:58
MMS458 Win Mag Loads
I recently acquired a Ruger 77 in 458 Win Mag. I have researched the forum and found a few things both positive and negative about this caliber. My question, is it reasonable for me to expect to hand load 500 gr soft & solids @ 2150 fps or greater without over stressing anything. I plan on using this rifle on a buf hunt I have scheduled in 2010. Any help from those of you experienced in this caliber would be greatly appreciated.
03 October 2008, 00:01
Walter ProciukI have had very good results with H-335 powder. 2150 fps with the solids and softs hitting the same point of impact at 100 yards. A Lee crimp die and two seater dies are a real asset. One die for the soft and one for the solid. Crimping separately.
03 October 2008, 01:36
shootawayVithavouri 540 and you will do 2150 with the 500grainers no problem.It is also the most accurate powder.Don't try Reloader 7 because the high pressure will cause issues.I think H4898 is also a good choice.
03 October 2008, 06:09
bja105Why the two seaters, Walter?
03 October 2008, 07:30
ddunnI can't help with the hot and heavy, but trailboss works for 400gr lead practice.
03 October 2008, 11:12
N E 450 No2quote:
Originally posted by bja105:
Why the two seaters, Walter?
I am guessing that he has one seater set up for the Soft and one for the Solid.
So he does not have to fiddle about with die adjustment when switching between the two different bullets.
A great plan, by the way.

04 October 2008, 02:05
Walter ProciukJason,
I use the two seaters to avoid having to make adjustments every time I change from loading softs to loading solids . I crimp seperately using a Lee Factory Crimp Die.
If you make a mistake with seating depth, bullet pulling and resizing are necessary. Two seaters avoids a lot of monkeying around.
Regards,
Walter
05 October 2008, 06:35
BuliwyfYes, it is reasonable for you to expect 2150 from a 500 grain bullet.
05 October 2008, 07:51
GeronomoI am currently working up loads for a friend. I have never before loaded the .458 WM. He wants to use woodleigh bullets. I have some test loads in: W 748, H 335, and IMR 3031. Any other suggestions? I will be shooting for the magical 2125-2150 fps. through a 22 inch barrel with 500 gr.bullets. Is this realistic without severe compression?
Geronimo
06 October 2008, 05:10
GeronomoA whole day and no responses?
Geronimo
06 October 2008, 05:20
shootawayNot with W748.Too much compression.I have not tried the other two.I tried AA 2230 and got the velocity without compression but it's not the most accurate.
06 October 2008, 11:03
JALThere were loads posted here on AR using AA2230
and H4895. 22" barrel will make it more difficult.
13 October 2008, 03:05
The MazI've had good results with 72 gr of IMR-4895 under 500 grain Hornadys. I haven't chronographed them, but recoil is stout.