02 August 2004, 17:01
trashcanmanDoes Hoppe's No 9 bore solvent contain Amonia?
A barrel Manufacturer says not to leave amonia in your barrel over an extended period of time. And some barrel cleaners contain amonia. But hoppes no 9 doesnt give ingredients. thanks
02 August 2004, 17:13
stubblejumperJudging by the smell and it's ineffectiveness at removing copper fouling,I don't believe it contains much if any ammonia.On the other hand sweets 7.62 and barnes cr-10 both contain a high percentage of ammonia and both are great at removing copper fouling.
03 August 2004, 04:47
Jim WhiteHoppes #9 will remove copper every bit as effectively as Sweets or any other solvent on the market. It just takes forever if you have a severe fouling problem. Jim
03 August 2004, 05:01
covey16I believe Hoppes Benchrest has a small ammount of ammonia.
#9 is mainly set up for powder fouling and I don't think it contains any ammonia.
I love the smell of #9,I could use it for after shave, but there's better cleaners available these days especially for copper fouling.
Covey16
03 August 2004, 05:28
graycgTrue,
But Sweets or CR10 do a crummy job on powder fouling, I recommend you use both #9 and one of the copper solvents or use Shooters choice or butch's which both seem to do both well.
regards,
graycg
03 August 2004, 05:32
covey16You forgot Shooters Choice, Montana Extreme,Wipeout,Outers Foul Out device on and on.
I love Hoppes for memories it brings back and for shotguns and rimfires, but there's just much better tools available these days.
Covey16
03 August 2004, 05:37
WayneShawI use Hoppe's Benchrest for overnihgt soaking. I don't think it has a strong ammonia content, at least it doesn't smell like it. But, after sitting all night, it does get a lot of bad stuff out of the barrel. I use Butch's the rest of the time.
03 August 2004, 06:33
shilen30I have been using montana x-treme for several cleanings now, and it is outstanding at removing both. Let it sit for 10 minutes, run a brass brush though with montana x-treme the same number of times that you have fired, do the process over again once, and I bet virtually all the copper and powder are removed. VERY little work required.
However, when using the bronze brushes your patches will most definitely be blue, but after the process I stated above and after dry patching, if you use a nylon brush again with the montana, I bet you don't see much of a trace of anything. Remember, follow up with the oil and neutralize the brass brush after use.
03 August 2004, 06:39
Cal SibleyI use Barnes and Sweets (not together). Both work well, but be sure to get all traces out of your barrel afterwards.
I do so by using Kroil afterwards. That stuff would neutralize sin. If you use Barnes or Sweets don't use bronze bristle brushes with them. It'll destroy the bristles in short order. To compound the problem your patches will come out blue/green making you think you're removing copper when you're just removing the bristles themselves. The best thing about Hoppes No.9 solvent is the smell. Most shooters love it. I wouldn't mind seeing it marketed as a perfume. A drop behind each ear, and the guys would go crazy. Best wishes.
Cal - Montreal
03 August 2004, 07:05
jorgeHoppes #9 does a good job with powder fouling and it does remove copper but at an unaceptably slow pace! I use it to prep my barrels. I remove the powder first, then begin with Sweets, CR-10, etc. I've been experimenting with Wipe Out also. That seems the way to go. jorge
03 August 2004, 10:47
Jim WhiteWhy don't you quote the whole statement like the part where I said it takes "forever"? It removes copper as well as anything if you have the time to use it and more importantly it would'nt hurt the metal in a thousand years.