I'm curious to hear what kind of performance you are getting out of your 270. Please list your favorite hunting bullets and other components along with the barrel length and velocity you're getting. Also, I'd like to hear about the performance of that combo on game (pics are even better ). Thanks for your time.

[ 11-05-2003, 12:30: Message edited by: Nebraska ]

I have a Sendero that put 3 shots in the same hole this past Saturday at the 100 yard range. I used 58.5 grains of H-4831,Fed 210 primer, Winchester brass once fired in the same rifle. I am shooting the 130 grain Hornady bullet right now. All I have killed thus far is a coyote that was hit in the head so I can't really say how it does on game. I want to load some Nosler Partitions and try them but haven't yet.

Win Model 70, 130 gr Barnes X FB bullet, 59 gr RL22, Federal brass, Rem Primer. Just over 3000 fps, cloverleaf groups (if I do my part).

My 270 Remington Mountain rifle likes H4831 with any 130 grain bullet. Around 59 grains. The best group was 4 in .28 which I opened to .785 with shot number 5! Guess I couldn't stand the pressure!

Bob257

Model 700 leftie, 23" Pac-Nor c-m super match barrel.

I've settled on 59.0 or 60.0 grains of RL-22 with a plain old Hornady 130 grain Spire Point, Federal 210 primer. 60 grains gives over 3200 fps with this combo and will put five shots into 1/2 to 3/4 inch. Have gotten several 3 shot groups with all three touching.

QuickLoad says this load is well under max pressure. The 23" barrel helps but that 3200 fps ain't coming for free. I'm a very conservative handloader and like to keep my pressures in the mid-50K psi range, so usually load 59 grains of RL-22. Accuracy is every bit as good and velocity is around 3160 fps.

[ 11-05-2003, 19:20: Message edited by: Jim in Idaho ]

Like Jim, I have a "fast" barrel on a pre-72 Sako. I get 3200 FPS from 58.5 grains of ORIGINAL SURPLUS 4831 (a bit slower than current 4831's) under a now-discontinued 130 grain Nosler Solid Base. This load holds my personal record for a deer kill (one shot) in the 500 yard vicinty (not normally recommended).

Many rifles will take a bit more 4831 than mine with a 130 grain bullet, but stick to Hodgdon. If you like the IMR series, try 7828.

I have a Browning BBR 270 win with a 22" barrel. Most 130grs shoot well, but the Sierra game king gets the nod. With 58grs of IMR 4831--Rem91/2M and a RP case accuracy is 3/4 MOA, and vel is 2999fts. I have tried H 4831, RL 22, H 4350, IMR4350, and H 450, but I keep comming back to IMR4831.

I have a Browning Eclipse. It shoots 3 round groups under an inch with most 130 grain bullets and 59 grains of reloader 22. It also likes H-4350 and IMR 4831. The Barnes triple shock is the bullet of choice this year. In the past I've been using BArnes xlc 130's And performance on game has been fantastic including a penetration from right shoulder to left hip at over 250 yards.

I shot my chronagraph with my bow this summer so I don't have any velocities on the triple shock but the xlc's are around 3020.

61 grains of RL22, F-210 primer, 130 Hornady SP,= 3100+ fps in a 22" barrel and .5 MOA

This combo works very well in the field from woodchucks to caribou.

Browning BAR II Safari. 22" barrel.
130gn Nosler Ballistic tips, RP cases, WLR primers, 55gn AR2209 (H4350).
3000 fps av.
Tested four 5 shot groups, all under 1MOA. Not the best Ive had but I like the bullet so Im sticking with it.


These are from the last to deer I shot (last week. The one on the right was a big stag. Went through one shoulder and ended up just inside the hide on the other, at 20 yards. The other was a spiker that went in behind the shoulder and ended up in the neck. It was facing away from me on a slight angle about 100m.
Quite often get the lead core seperating from the jacket.
These always do well from 10m to 400m.

[ 11-06-2003, 11:16: Message edited by: millsie67 ]

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I shot my chronagraph with my bow this summer

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Another chrony bites the dust.

Ooops. Almost forgot, this is about 270 loads. Okay. If it won't shoot with 52 - 53 W760/H414, or 54 - 55 of one of the 4350's, or 56 - 57 R19 or IMR 4831, or 59 - 60 H4831, or a similar amount of RL22 and any 130 grain bullet (has anyone ever heard of a "bad" 270/130 bullet), it's time to throw that one away and look for another 270.

R-WEST

[ 11-06-2003, 03:00: Message edited by: R-WEST ]

Nebraska,

Most of the post indicate the 130 grain bullets. Don't overlook the 140 grain bullets. I use the Hornady 140 BTSP bullet with a CCI-250 primer and 56.5 grains of H-4831. Velocity from my 22" pre-64 Model 70 (and other Model 70's and 700's that I have) is in the low 2700's fps. Not all that fast, but accuracy is sub-M.O.A. out to my 300 yard target at my shooting range. I have taken numerous white-tails at distance up to and near the 300 yard mark with great success. I will match this bullet and my old Model 70 with any 130 grain load that I have shot in any of my 270 caliber rifles. Good-luck...BCB

Nebraska,
My load for my pre-64 is 59.5 gr of H4831, Hornady 140 BTSP. Speed is 3000 fps, Average groups are 3/4" I have used this load for about 10 years. I have shot LOTS of elk with this load and several deer. Ron

Ron,

Don't you know you're supposed to post your daughter and her elk along with yours!! Love those pics.

Nebraska, here you go. Her load is a 270 with 130 gr Hornadys, 54 gr of H4831 at 2750 fps. This is a great load for kids. Ron

Is that a fence in the background, Ron? Your 140 gr load is close to the one that shoots best (so far) in my .270.

That one's gorgeous!

So's the elk.

Good to see you're bringing her up right!

My daughter'll shoot my .300 Weatherby, and does so competently but I don't think she's going to put holes in anything more animated than the iron silhouette pig she holed with it last spring.

Everything works well in the .270, H-414 52 to 54grs, H-450 58.5grs, H-4831 60grs, IMR-4350 54grs, all are outstanding with a 130gr bullet.

I'm a big .270 fan, so this will be an essay. Unfortunately, I don't have a favorite load, simply because I like to experiment and the .270 is a marvelous round to reload. A good place to start is H-4831 and either a 130, 140, or 150 grain bullet. With Hornady or Winchester brass, I typically use 60 gr H-4831 w/ 130s, 59 w/ 140s, and 58 w/ 150s. With Remington brass, I typically see the same velocities w/ 2 grains less powder. RL-22 and IMR-4831 typically give me slightly better velocities. I have played somewhat with other powders, but usually find what I want with one of these 3. I have loaded for both 22" and 24" barrels on .270s and I have found that individual guns seem to have more impact on velocity than 2" of barrel.

You should be able to reach 3100 fps w/130s, 3000 fps w/ 140s, and 2900 fps w/ 150s without too much trouble. I'm generally happy when I'm in this range (give or take 50 fps) and they seem to be the normal max velocities. Some (book) loads have gotten me a bit more, but I drop back as I believe velocity is tied to pressure if there are no other signs and I err on the conservative.

The bullet I've taken most game with is the 140 gr Hornady btsp and it is excellent. The hornady lightmag loads reaches 3100 fps in the 24" barrel of my current .270 and it is a good one. I don't even bother reloading anymore if I want to use that particular bullet.

Probably the most consistently accurate load I have tried is the 150 Hornady spirepoint, 56-58 grains H-4831 (depeding on gun...start at 54 and work up), Rem Cases, and CCI-250 mag primers. This load has shot under 1" in 3-4 different .270s for me w/out any tinkering. In one .270 w/ a 22" barrel, 58 grains gave me just over 2800 fps, in my current .270 w/ 24" barrel, 56 gr H-4831 gives me just over 2900 fps. That load aside, I prefer winchester brass in the .270.

As far as on game performance w/ the .270, I'm limited to deer and it has proven devastating. I took a hefty muley last year at 175 yards on a steep quartering angle...in through the ribs, out the front of off shoulder. Dropped straight down. That was with the 140 Horn btsp. Of the many whitetails I've shot with the .270, I've gotten an exit every single time, except one. These were mostly broadside or quartering shots through at least one shoulder and I have not tried any of the polymer tipped bullets. The one shot that did not exit was with 130 gr Federal Hi-Shok factory loads on a previously wounded (large) doe. I was hunting in PA and it came running past me while I was standing in a corn field at about 40 yards. I could tell it was hit and thought it might stop before entering cover, but it didn't, so took a shot just as it entered the woods. I ended up hitting it squarely in the right ham and it dropped straight down. The bullet broke both hips and the jacket was in the hide on the off side. Not pretty, but the deer ended up being gut shot (a couple of times ) by another group of hunters, so I did ruin a bunch of meat and take a poor shot, but at least it didn't get away. I have seen 130 Nosler Partitions shoot end to end through whitetails on a couple of occassions (in while facing, out the back). The norm for me w/ the .270 is bang-flop.

Another very interesting load that I played with this year was the 160 Nosler. I haven't taken any game with it, but it will reach 2900 fps in my .270 and has a very high sectional density. Not too shabby when compared to factory 7mm Rem Mag velocities of 2950 (yes, I know you can handload the big 7 faster). Barnes 180s will go over 2700 fps for me (ala 06), but again, this was just tinkering since I mainly hunt deer and end up using 130-150 grain bullets.

I won't even get into trajectory...everybody knows the .270 shoots flat. Sight 3" high at 100, aim in the middle out to 325 or so and top of back to 400 (if you're so inclined). Another nice thing about the .270 is that for practice, I can shoot many full power loads wearing a t-shirt during the HOT summer mos and not get beat down by recoil. I'm not recoil shy, but I simply cannot say the same thing about my .300 Mags...20 or so rounds and I start to notice it. Not a big deal during the fall when I can wear a sweatshirt or jacket to shoot.

Hopefully, I'll have another .270 success story this coming week as I'm taking it off to hunt the rut in my North TX lease.

Good Luck,

Lou

Thanks for all the info and pics so far!

Lou - Make sure to post pics if ya get somethin'.

Ron - You sure make it easy to start a 270 thread!! Thanks again.

Calif Hunter, Yes that is a fence. It is a forest service fence to keep pastures seperated. The area we were in has been closed to grazing for about 3 years. This year the forest service struck a deal with the cattle men to rest these pastures for 10 years! The elk and deer hunting here will improve, I am sure. I hunted this area this year for Blue grouse and I saw a mule dee that was a little over 30". The problem is this area is draw only on deer and elk. Kasi's story is inthe new Eastmans Hunting magazine.

Lou270, My bull was shot with the 140 BTSP's at 3000. When I took the shot I was trying for the shoulder, spine shot. I hit part of the shoulder and took out the spine. The bull dropped in his tracks and the bullet passed on through. I realy like the 140's.
Ron

I really like IMR4831 behind a 150gr Hornday. Puts these Alabama whitetail down every time.

I really like the 160 gr Nosler Partition for larger game. I use 55.5gr of IMR 4895 and a Remington 9 1/2 primer. I get about 2900 ft/sec.

Idaho Ron,

Is that a Model 70 your daughter is using? I have on that has the same forearm checkering, or at least it looks like that! My rifle is much darker in color though. Love those Model 70's in the 270 Winchester caliber...I have several and they all shoot well. BUT, I do have a Remington 700 (won it at a raffle!) that shoots the Lyman 280642 cast bullet really well. And so it goes...BCB

RCB, Kasi's rifle is A stevens (savage) 110K
My Rifle is a Pre64 mod 70 in a 270. Ron

Love that .270 on deer. I use 130 gr. sierra spitzers and H4831. Every shot I have placed in the vitals has downed them with one shot. That's with a Browning A-bolt camo stalker and a Leupold Vari-x3.

[ 11-16-2003, 01:47: Message edited by: Voldamort ]

Hooray! I sort of have something to add now! I got a 15" Encore in 270 this summer and have been working up loads for it. It shoots the 130gr. Nosler Ballistic Tips with 54.0gr. of IMR 4350, CCI 200 primers, into an inch or less if I do my part, but it also does that with the partition and SST as well. I took a big doe this morning with the ballistic tip at 50 yards. It hit hard! Knocked her down and she got up and stumbled 20 yards and that was that. I really enjoyed this one because it's my first deer with a handgun and first one with reloads.(First chance though too) I would imagine a lot of that powder doesn't get burned correctly though, but it works really well. I bet it would in a 24" tube also.

Regards,
Matt

Nebraska,

My favorite .270 is a Win Model 70 that's been blueprinted with a 24" Krieger tube. It wears an HS Precision stock and a 3x9 Leupold. I've killed my last muley with those derned Sierra bullets! I have used them for years and will continue to use them on whitetails, but nothing larger. Last week I shot a 200 lb muley buck at 210 yards as he angled away from me. The bullet took out the last four ribs on the left side, entered the chest cavity, and exploded near the top of the heart...no exit. The load was 59.5 grains RL22, F210LR primer, WW brass, and a 130 grain Sierra fbsp at an average (chrono'ed)velocity of 3150 fps. The deer ran about 30 yards and laid down and was dead in less than 10 seconds (I could see him the whole time.) There are undoubtedly those who are looking for this kind of performance but not me! I want 2 holes in the deer I shoot. Anyway----the .270 is my favorite cartridge and likely always will be. I've been mad at Sierra ever since they stopped putting 101 bullets in each box. Anyone who disagrees with me----flame away because I don't care what you hunt with and your opinion is your own just as mine is my own. My $ is going for bullets that perform the way I want them to perform!

Good Hunting

59.5 g. H-4831, Rem. Brass, CCI 200 primer, 130 g. Nosler BT. Clocks 3150 from my Sako AV with 22" barrel. Has consistently shot in the 0.4"s and is very satisfactory for Coues Deer, Mule Deer and Antelope from 30 yards to 430 yards. .270's are all that O'Conner said.

I use 130 Nosler Part and 60.0 of RL 22 with Fed Prem Brass w/Fed 210M GM Primers. Excellent load for over 10 years now.

Nice pictures of the elk, and the 140gr sp bullet is an out standing bullet for the 270. Those pictures of the N-bal-tip are just like the sst's Ive seen and are total bullet failures, core seperation is always a sure thing with these type of bullets, just because you got youre animal, the bullet structure still failed for even deer sized animals and the pictures show..

[ 11-16-2003, 18:57: Message edited by: 4bambam ]

110 gr V-max or Pro hunter and 61 gr IMR 4831. That is all that goes through my Douglas 28" custom 98 Mauser Supper Snuffer - Just don't look at the back side of anything hit by it.

Hornady, Nosler Partition, Speer Grand Slam 130 gr over 63.5 gr of H-1000. All shoot to the same point of impact at 100 yards and approximately the same size group (1 inch or under) in my Howa with a 22-inch barrel. I get around 3050 FPS with that load.

110 Hornady HP over 55 grs IMR-4350, WLR primers and RP cases. Nice moderate load that the book lists at about 3000 FPS. Dreadfully accurate and very hard on prairie dogs.

Tim

I have a Ruger 77MkII, stainless/laminated - 22" bbl, Leupold Vari-x 2 3x9x40. action bedded, bbl floated, Timney trigger (if you've got a MkII, GET A TIMNEY). This is used for everything from varmints to deer, although we don't expect to tan the rabbits and foxes!! In this rifel (and THIS RIFLE ONLY) I have worked up the following loads:

All laods are Win cases, win LR primers.
130g Speer soft point, 59.0g AR2213SC
130g Speer boat tail, 60g AR2213SC
110g Sierra Pro hunter, 61.0g AR2213SC
110g Sierra Pro hunter, 58g AR2209.

I don't have a chronograph, so I have no idea of actula velocity, but these loads all shoot to the same point of impact at 50, 100, 150, and 200 yards (within .25") and make 5 shot 'clover leaf' groups. I'll take that over velocity anyday!

Custom job on a Mod 70 Pre-War action (serial# 10_) 24in Krieger barrel built by Bill Soverns.

56.0gr IMR 4831 Federal match primers, Norma brass 130gr Hornaday Interlocks 3000 fps one holers. My best group was .05in. I also get 3000 fps with the exact set-up and 140gr Interlocks, only 1/4in groups. 140gr T.B.Bear Claws also around 3000 fps 1/2in groups.