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Been looking at neck turners and wanted to hear the popular opinion about them, which one should I get and why?
 
Posts: 5604 | Location: Eastern plains of Colorado | Registered: 31 October 2005Reply With Quote
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Tiger woods has a whole bunch of used ones.....

I hear they are no longer used! dancing


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This one by Hornady works very well and was designed by one of the finest tool designers today! Big Grin



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I like both my Forster, on set to trim lenght and one for neck turn
 
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K&M for small and medium bore.

Sinclair for big bore.
 
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Vapo - have you used the Hornady? - I was thinking about buying one, but several of the reviews on the Cabela's web site indicated there may be a problem setting/holding cutting depth.
 
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Love my Forster hand turner, it has a wide blade for a smooth cut



Forster also makes reamers that have the same mandrel


should you ever have a tight necked chamber and need to get rid of do-nuts or need to ream from downsizing necks.


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DO NOT buy the RCBS for $50 bucks. I did about 80 cases and the blade is shot. Get a good one with a carbide cutter.
 
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Just how much more accuracy do you normally obtain by adding this step to your reloading routine?
 
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From what I have found on my guns, it depends on how the chamber has been cut.

Factory chambers, it doesn't seem to improve it any. Checking Bullet runout is probably the best way to get the most accuracy.

Tight neck chambers are more accurate, in general, which means you are going to have to turn the necks some.
 
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Just how much more accuracy do you normally obtain by adding this step to your reloading routine?
Darn little!


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Vapo - have you used the Hornady? - I was thinking about buying one, but several of the reviews on the Cabela's web site indicated there may be a problem setting/holding cutting depth.

Yes.....however I have not used one being manufactured now....the one I had utilized a HSS cutter and the current manufacturing data does not claim a HSS cutter.

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I'm hoping that some added accuracy would be a bonus, I actually load for a couple rifles that have fairly tight necks and some brass thats fat gives resistence when closing the bolt. Thick necks is the last thing on the checklist to do.
Thanks it looks like Forster may be a good bet and that was my first choice anyway but thought I'd better ask the collective experience of this forum. Thanks guys.
 
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For the money.....

...K&M.....no contest.

Buy the carbide turning mandrels, though.

Hope this helps.

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What is your source for the K&M I've not seen them.?
 
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http://www.precisionreloading.com/

http://www.precisionreloading....ory_Code=NECK_TRN_KM


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What is your source for the K&M I've not seen them.?
 
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I reload quite a few wildcats: 17 Tact, 20 Tact, 17 AH, 17 Squirrel, etc..so its a must


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Just how much more accuracy do you normally obtain by adding this step to your reloading routine?
 
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For the money.....

...K&M.....no contest.

Buy the carbide turning mandrels, though.

Hope this helps.

Kevin Gullette


Kevin, dude,

Tell me more (a lot more please). That piece of mo-chee-nerrr-yyy to drive the case for neck turning is making my head turn.

Please feel free to pass on details via PM.

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BTW,

Sinclai now makes .17 through 50BMG mandrels, expanding and turning for reasonable mooney.

For .17 through .338, you can get made from carbide for about $60.00


 
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LD,

It's a Bodine 1/8hp 172rpm gearmotor. The 172rpm works well with carbide turning mandrels. A lower speed would be required with standard steel mandrels.

Attached is a pic of the case holder adaptor, which makes use of Forster case trimmer collets.

Hope this helps.

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I have a Forester and have used it in the past with no noticeable increase in accuracy detected. I was more concerned about the brass flow and the necks getting thicker and leading to increased pressure in an already hot load.

Don't turn necks anymore and everything seems to be getting on ok. JMHO
 
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Attached is a pic of the case holder adaptor, which makes use of Forster case trimmer collets.


Thank you Kevin,

That is one industrial job of knurling BTW Cool.

When processing mass quantities of .308 Win Brass (for fairly tight chambers), I used to run it all into a Gracey outside turner. It has three cutters. Impressively clean cutting. I just took the neck thickness down to .0135" and used an appropriate bushing. It was amazing how any sort of trash brass would shoot (except anything that had even been near a machine gun - unsalvageable!).

That brass especially loved a 1995 Palma chamber!

On occaison, if I am getting .002" runnout after running the brass over a mandrel, I will just shave .0008" or .0010" off the wall thickness. I don't kid myself about having straight cases, I don't. It sure makes it easier to get uniform neck tension for launch time though. Doesn't hurt, sometimes it even helps.

Thanks again for the info.

LD


 
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From what I have found on my guns, it depends on how the chamber has been cut.

Factory chambers, it doesn't seem to improve it any. Checking Bullet runout is probably the best way to get the most accuracy.

Tight neck chambers are more accurate, in general, which means you are going to have to turn the necks some.


My Sinclair works well for .223 AI. I needed to grind the edge of the cutter tool to clear the shoulder.

The "theory" in neck turning is to get a concentric wall width which releases the bullet in a straight line.

If you're getting into this sort of fuss, you need to weigh brass and bullets, keep track of brass lots, weigh charges on two scales.

I had a Rem. 700 Police rechambered to .223 Ackley. I was spending 3 - 4 hrs. to load 20 rds. Then five shots, swab the bore, check the ambient temp. Look at wind flags.

0.22 MOA, but I sold the set up and decided shooting 8mm Mausers w/ surplus 1950's Equador ammo, iron sights at stumps 700 yds down range is more fun. Berdan primed, corrosive loads. I don't need to even pick up the brass!
 
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