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So I have an Lyman orange crush...is there such a thing as bench rest press...I would think all the accuracy issues are in the dies? Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue. What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | ||
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There are a couple of so called bench rest presses available. I think that they are refered to as B.R. presses more for their size and portability than anything else. Not to say that they are not accurate, they certainly are. Another type press that is refered to as a B.R. press is an arbor press, these are used with streight line or chamber type dies, and are used by many accuracy minded shooters. They are available from most of the accuracy oriented mail order shops. Bob | |||
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try a coax just once & you'll see | |||
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Okay so i many things but I am not clairvoyant...what is a coax...I am assuming it is a brand Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue. What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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http://www.forsterproducts.com/Pages/press.htm Nice press, has its quirks, but I still think it is the "Mercedes" of reloading presses... - mike ********************* The rifle is a noble weapon... It entices its bearer into primeval forests, into mountains and deserts untenanted by man. - Horace Kephart | |||
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I agree that the Coax press is a fine tool.....it's listed at Midsouth at $211 which is more than double the RCBS Rockchucker (another fine press) but a full $120 less than the price on the Forester site. I doubt that they sell many at that price when many consider the RCBS an expensive press. /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill | |||
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Mike, I'm not 100% sure, but I don't think any true benchrest shooters use the seven-eights by 14 threaded dies we talk about here on AR. Those folks use Wilson dies in an arbor press or use a mallot. Now, about 'our' presses. Agreed, most of the accuracy in finished rounds comes from the dies, but a 'springy' press can cause concentricity problems...that's probably why you don't see many "C" presses anymore. Same with a press where the threaded top is not perpendicular with the ram/shellholder. Also, some turret press top parts wobble when under pressure from sizing. Some of these problems arise from the compound leverage linkage of presses such as the Rockchucker. Also, I have read many times in the past 35 years that a fine thread die set would do much to aid in getting the dies square with the shellholder. But the seven-eights by 14 course thread has been the industry standard for as long as I can remember. The Bonanza (now Forster) Co-ax press was designed many, many years ago to offset the inaccuracies of course threaded dies. The only bad report on them is that the recent, very tall, micrometer dies hit the top of the press frame. I asked a Forster rep at the '98 NRA convention booth why the factory direct price was so high. He said they preferred to sell through their dealers. Quite so. The show price was over $100 higher than Midway's. You have to remember that these tools were designed right after WWII when the only thing on our minds was a way, any way, to reload a fired factory case. The basic design is 60 years old. That's why the ultra precision BR folks abandoned them years ago in favor of dies and presses that overcame those shortcomings. | |||
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