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Has anyone compared these?

Word last year was that the Forest didn't work very well. I can't say; WipeOut is the only product I'll ever use from here on out. Scrub a bore again? Not bloody likely.

Pertinax

I liked the Wipe-out but it eats bedding compound so be careful. Switched to Hoppe's no.9 benchrest recently because the foam is still a mess at times even with 1/8" surgical tubing.

I agree that Wipeout is a mess, but after a little learning curve, I'm comfortable with it. Just stuff a rag in the chamber, squirt the muzzle, put my finger over the muzzle while it expands, and then let it squirt the excess out into a paper towel when I remove my finger.

Sure as the world beats the mess of patches and solvent! JMO, Dutch.

All I have to say is that since I have been using Forrest, all the brushing and scrubbing is now a thing of the past.
My JB and Sweets are now in the corner gathering dust.
montero

I agree with Montero ( Sweets gathering dust ).
I cannot compare with Wipe-out but Forrest is probably the best available in SA .
Bn

I have been using Wipe-Out for about a year now and love it.

Cleaning my rifles during the summer in Houston is a chore--90 degrees and high humidity, so I like being able to use Wipe Out and go back inside while it does the work. I do swab out the powder fouling with Shooter's Choice or Butch's, because WO does work a little faster on the copper this way.


You can use a patch with a hole in it for a gasket around the nozzle of the wipe-out can to keep it from foaming out as you squirt it in.

Steve

Wipeout is far better than Forrest, I used them both and came to that conclusion....

I see no reason to get this stuff on the gun finish, it is for cleaning the inside of the barrel only!! If you get it on something else then that is your fault not the product...

I love the stuff, it makes my like easier...I also like Kroil and JB once a year...Barnes 15 is good strong medicine for copper removal also.

Butchs Bore shine is about as effective as cold water IMO, Sweets is better...Most bore cleaners are just weak I think, they work well enough but it takes a lot of time to clean a barrel with most of them...

All the above is my opinnion only, based on my use and evaluation of the product, right or wrong.

I've heard about Wipe Out. What do you do after it has sat and worked its magic? I read on the Midway site that Wipe Out will dissolve brass and aluminum - so how do you get it out of the bore since it would damage most cleaning rods and jags?

Who sells Wipe Out besides Midway?

I think Cabellas is suppose to have it now. The first site I picked up after doing an engine search for wipe-out bore cleaner yielded the Paul Co. in Paola, Kansas. Terry Paul was the first one to market the stuff that I know of. He has and interesting line of products. Atkinson or others who have used the Forrest foam, what is the cleaner formulated on? Does the forrest foam like wipe out say? I think Wipe Out uses an ammonia like organic chemical cleaner called monoethanolamine. Cloth or some tissue in and around the action are a good thing. Along with one end of a piece of flexible tubing of the appropriate diameter 'stuck' in the chamber and the other end vented outside the action. Usually after some practice, you'll barely fill the clear plastic tube with excess foam. Wipe out is very elbow and bore friendly. Wipe Out may attack any thing(plastics and non iron/steels) that doesn't look like gun metal. If excess foam is left to puddle up, it could be a problem. Don't let it sit on plastic, alum, brass, or etc. Clean any excess off with any absorbent toweling. Tilt the barrel down ever so slightly, so as to let any drips that form, travel to the muzzle instead of the action area.

California Hunter,
The Wipe out action will etch a rod lightly if left on it..The solution is when finished cleaning wipe the rod off with mineral spirits or whatever..

I have no idea what the ingrediants of either Wipe out or Forrest, I do know that Wipe Outs works and Forrest is only so-so...

Use a little care when using..I squirt it down the bore after pluging the chamber with a patch and wood dowell, run a rod down it and then squirt another puff down the bore, all this from the muzzle, I wipe off the access that comes out the muzzle, wrap a paper towell around the muzzle and hold it there with a rubber band..I leave it for about 2 hours and mop it all out, perhaps it may need another shot for another 2 hours, maybe not...dry throughly and a quick clean with Hoppes or whatever, dry and oil well...

Absolutly no reason to get anything on the wood...

Here is another vote for "Wipe Out"! I shoot it in the bore, leave it over night and patch it out the next day! WHAT MORE COULD YOU ASK FOR!

To claify the etching of the rod, my rod is brass not steel, thought I had better add that before someone freaked out.

Have any of you used M-pro7. Any input good or bad?
http://www.mp7.com/NCleaner.htm
Jeff
BTW, I have been using the wipe out for a few months. All I can say is I wish I would have had this stuff a long time ago.

I have not compared... never used Wipe Out. But Forrest,yes.I find it quite good.

Just interested: do you still find copper with Wipe Out after using Forrest or what is it that makes Wipe Out so much better?

Outers Foul Out doesn�t find any copper after a Forrest treatment.Makes me think there is not much left then.

Jsh, Mpro7 is the best I found against carbon build up (try it on the piston of a gas auto and you'll be convinced). Little helpful to remove copper, though.

Forrest is a little hard to get here in the US.

If you review the responses, the "Forrest Advocates" are all from overseas where the Forrest distribution is better. The guy who sells Wipe Out used to be the US distributor for Forrest, according to my sources at Sierra Bullets. He created his own formulation and no longer imports Forrest.

Forrest was originally called Mil-Foam, is made in Finland, and sold to the military for cleaning artillery pieces. Sako gave it high praise, saying it is the best of all solvents they have ever used.

Ray Atkinson - I have also used both Forrest and Wipe Out, but came to a different conclusion than you did. I used my varmint guns, 22-250 Remington & AR15 by DPMS, both with Krieger stainless barrels. After at least 200 rounds through each, I tried Wipe-Out, left overnight, then patched out, dried & patched with Hoppes, dried and ran Sweets 7.62 in for 10 minutes. Still had copper in both barrels, so I repeated the Wipe-Out/Hoppes/Sweets process. Same result.

I then ordered Forrest from the Texas disributor and tried the same experiment, only this time, following Forrest directions, I left it in barrel for 15 minutes instead of overnight as Wipe-Out requires.(when I'm prairie doggin' I hate having to waste time cleaning - 15 min is a lot better than overnight!) Blue crap came out like crazy, but I could not patch everything out - patches kept showing black streaks. As I learned, this is the carbon being softenend by Forrest. I brushed with Hoppes and when I ran a patch thru, it looked like coal tar coming out the barrel. The darn Forrest loosened up all that carbon inside my barrels! Even took the hard carbon off the tip of barrel where it butts agains the muzzle brake. I used to have to scrape it off, now it wipes off! Accuracy with both rifles is still superb & I dont need any more JB, Barnes, etc. Oh and by the way, when I ran the Sweets in & let is sit for 15min, there was NO BLUE on the patch :-)

So what experience did you have with these, comparisons, to determine that Wipe Out is better?

Hawkeye

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