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Washington, DC -- where they took a perfectly good swamp and made it into a sewer.

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Originally posted by ricciardelli:
.25-06 Remington

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I agree with this recommendation.

Putting your four uses together, and indeed using that one rifle for all four would steer me to a cartridge with enough power to do each job, but not more. That way you will get more rounds through the barrel before you wear it out.

The .257 Roberts is still around in some factory rifles, and it is a premier multi-purpose cartridge. It is limited only by the bullets available.

The .25-06 burns a lot more powder, and the larger cases burn more each time you pull the trigger.

jim dodd

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"if you are to busy to
hunt, you are too busy."

[This message has been edited by HunterJim (edited 01-03-2002).]

If my shooting opportunities were more evenly balanced I'd look at the 257 Roberts or AI version.

Personally, I see no reason for the 25-06. I'd rather have a 6.5-06 or a 270. I love the 257 Roberts. It is the best sub-270 cartridge for use in a 22 inch barrel. It is the finest cartridge to ever fall on hard times. However, it will never die because true riflemen know it is perfectly balanced, is a dream to reload and a dream to shoot.

Forrest

If you don't mind using a long action, then the .25/06 makes more sense than the .25/284 (cheaper cases, etc). But if you're limiting yourself to Texas whitetails and similar sized antelope (either native or exotic) and would prefer a short (medium) action, then the .257 Improved would be a winner. The only drawback to the .257, either Roberts or Imp, is that with bullets heavier than about 100 grains, you would have to seat pretty deep using a short action (the same is true of a .25-284). With 100 grainers for deer and 75's for varmints, the short action would work fine. The Roberts Improved will give you almost the velocity of either the .284 case or the .25/06.

If velocity and range are important, and you want to use 117 or 120 grain bullets regularly, then go with a .25/06 Improved. I would stay away from the Weatherby, but mainly because I dislike the radiused shoulder (sometimes troublesome in reloading and a poor headspacing shape) and extra freebore. Besides, if you need a cartridge of this power, you should buy a deer rifle AND a varmint rifle, because this is well out of the varmint class.

Whatever you decide, have fun.

By the way, do you know a good riflesmith here in or around GTown?

I would agree with my friend Nick, go for the 257 Roberts Improved.

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www.accuratereloading.com

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Washington, DC -- where they took a perfectly good swamp and made it into a sewer.

I also have a 257DGR, great round, and would be interested in comparing/sharing load info.

I may try shooting mine in HBR this summer if I can't get my 308 Obermeyer put together in time.

E-mail me: milender@ictc.com
Good Hunting
Jeff in ND

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Originally posted by HunterJim:
The .257 Roberts is still around in some factory rifles, and it is a premier multi-purpose cartridge. It is limited only by the bullets available.

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If you do get a .257 Roberts, it should be on a long action -- not the short action that many were built on. The .257 Roberts is the 7x57 case necked down to .25 caliber. If you load heavy bullets in it, you have to seat them deep in order to work through a short action, as that case is long enough that it doesn't work through a short action unless the overall cartridge length is rather short.

However, the .25-'06 can be had in the same rifle, giving it the sensible edge because the Roberts really requires a long action.

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Originally posted by fishnfool:
However, the .25-'06 can be had in the same rifle, giving it the sensible edge because the Roberts really requires a long action. [/B]

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Fishinfool, I believe you have this backwards. The Roberts does not require a long action, the 25-06 does. The length of case of the Roberts should be 2.233" and the 25-06 should be 2.494"

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Originally posted by Corey:
The Roberts does not require a long action, the 25-06 does. The length of case of the Roberts should be 2.233" and the 25-06 should be 2.494"

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My understanding is that, yes, the Roberts can be built on a short action, but that this restricts you to seating heavy bullets quite deeply. Thus, both the .257 and the .25-06 ought to be built on a long action.

shark bait from a wisconson hunter who has used th 30-30 and the 308 and the 25-06 i have to say that the 25-06 goes hunting more than the rest. i have tryed some loads with
imr 4064 and 75 gr. sirria hollow points that you can cover with a dime at five shoots
at 100 yds. (i do not use these for deer hunting) any way as far as deer hunting goes i have been using 100 gr nosler balistic tip and and have had one shot kills with it.
i think it is a great cartrige and the best part is you can get brass for it.

just my opinon good shooting

LE270 explained it to you just as I would have. The .257 Roberts has been chambered in short actions, but bullets must be seated so deep in the case making it ill-suited for the short action. I was simply stating that my .257 Roberts (Ruger M77 Mk.II Ultra Light) has the same length action as the same rifle in .25-'06. Hope this helps.

Jim

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Originally posted by Alstro:
Savage and Tikka make left handed 25-06's.

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Thanks,will look them up.

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Originally posted by LE270:
Thus, both the .257 and the .25-06 ought to be built on a long action.

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Actually, I should have said that the .25-06 must be built on a long action, and the .257 Roberts ought to be.