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.223 dies - carbide?
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After much advice - I am close to deciding on a Redding neck die set for my Rem XR-100 .223 (single shot) My understanding is that I can add a Redding carbide size button kit to eliminate inside neck lubrication.
Does anyone manufacture carbide neck sizing dies to eliminate case lubrication altogether as per pistol cases? I understand impracticality for full length resizing but puzzled about neck only resizing.
 
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SmilerI can't answer the qusetion about the Redding dies but I have found that on some rifles full length sizing worked best. i tried neck sizing and the rifle wouldn;t shoot good at all. Went back to full length and it came in. Also I have a friend that shoots a Thomson 10 inch .223 and he found full length worked better for him also. So full length sizing isn't impractical all the time.
 
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I have carbide dies from Dillon...they're great. They don't eliminate lubrication but reduce the lube required a lot


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I called Dillon when those dies were introduced and asked them if the carbide dies still required lube. As Vapodog mentioned, yes they do.

When I asked Dillon why bother with carbide?... their answer was they last longer.

Do you know ANYONE who's worn out a non-carbide die?

Even if you could wear one out, you could buy many, many replacements for the price of a carbide die. I'm sure the manufacturer would replace a worn out die anyway.

The primary deciding factor on the lube is how much body taper the case has. The carbide pistol cartridge dies that don't need lube are for cases with relatively thin walls that are almost straight.

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Redding & Wilson make carbide bushings for their bushing dies. Will it eliminate the need for any lube I can't say you will just have to try it to find out? I use steel bushings in my Wilson Bench Rest Dies they are less money and depending on the brand of brass you use on how thick the neck is. From brand to brand unless you neck turn to a constant thickness you will need different size bushings to get the proper fit on the bullet.

If you are using a carbide size button you don’t necessarily need the exact size bushing, instead use a bushing just a little smaller so the size button can bring the neck out to the size of the bullet without execessive neck sizeing. Sound confusing doesn’t it but it really is a simple process.

Maybe one of the forum members can better explain.


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