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Of course, there were also the HP rifle competitors in the past who NEVER CLEANED THEIR M1'S AT ALL!![/B]

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HEHE, yep. I sell cleaning rods, J. Dewey is by far the most popular. I use Pro-Shot stainless Rods for my personal use with a rod or bore guide I don't worry about scoring the bore, I would hope that todays guns are of a higher quality steel than in the olden days and scoring and scratching bbls with a cleaning rod is the least of my worries.

When I clean a gun I use Mpro-7 and the rod just isn't used that much before the bore is clean.

And too, as the gentleman said, unless the bbl I'm using is real finicky or gets wet I just don't clean 'em much any more.

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I use Pro-Shot stainless Rods for my personal use with a rod or bore guide

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Ditto. IMO coated rods are no better than aluminum. Provived the rod has no sharp protrusions and isn't shoved through the bore at, say 1,000 FPS, I don't think it could cause anymore damage than the copper/lead projectiles I fired through it.

Just my nickel.

Eddie

It would be interesteng to look at one of my Dewey rods under high magnification to see of there is anything embedded that would abrade the bore. I use both kinds of rods, because like everyone else, I hear lots of stories, but have no real data, like most all the other crap we argue about like fluting, moly, etc. Theories abound, little scientific process to back up the BS. Oh well, what would we post about then?

R

I use a stainless for the reasons listed above. find a brass jag that is smooth, and well made and then BE CAREFUL !!!

I push the jag and rod out of the muzzle, but I do so GENTLY. I also come back in very GENTLY.

Don't bow the rod or otherwise force it into the bore. You should move a cleaning rod down the bore like you're moving a sharp sword down your throat -- (you know . . . like in the circus).

I avoided bronze brushes for a while. Then I discovered that the nylon brush won't get the bore clean. Bronze brush causes nowhere near the wear and tear of a jacketed bullet running 3500 fps with gas behind it.

Push the brush completely out of the bore before pulling back. Don't change directions mid-bore.

My barrels are getting cleaner now that I'm waiting 10 minutes or more for the solvent to work on the coppering.

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Aluminium gets oxidized, and aluminium oxide is used for lapping! If you must have stainless get a one piece rod!

Brass rod, wiped down regularly as pointed out above, brass jags from the breech, Hoppe�s # 9, eventually over night,it will take some time, but my barrels are clean and get smoother all the time!

I use Marble�s rods, as they are quite stiff, but I hate that swivel up front. I will try Kleenbore or Dewey ( brass ) rods in the future, anybody any experiences? Any body knows other brass rods? ( not Outers! )

I strongly recommend the Tipton jag set ( also sold by Cabela�s ). Good jags and perfect packaging!

Hermann

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