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Mike

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What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
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I have one and love it. I've used (and probably still have in a box somewhere) the expensive redding and rcbs measures. The Harrell is much better. It is click repeatable adjustable. I have created a table of the micrometer measure for all the powders that I use frequently and don't bother to weigh anymore (but I really carefully check the meter setting!)
 
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Hey Brad,

Question, I just ordeded one and Lynwood was describing the handle operation and it seemed a little involved.

Something like..."Go 1/2 up, then slow the the rest of the way, then start back down...then when you see powder droping for the rest of the way..."

Can you PM your phone number..


Mike

Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.



What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
Posts: 10134 | Location: Loving retirement in Boise, ID | Registered: 16 December 2003Reply With Quote
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I've got one too. And love it just like bradhe.
It is not complex to use. Just need to develop your rhythm and keep it up.
My stroke is to bring the handle up fully in a smooth swing. Then bring the handle down about 15 to 20 degrees. Then back to the top of motion slightly "banging" or "knocking" the handle at the top of the swing. Now I rotate the handle down with the same motion I use to bring the handle up. I then "knock" or "bang" the handle at the bottom to ensure that all the powder drops and settles the powder in the hopper for the next turn.
If you have any questions PM me and I will give you my number and we can work out some answers.

muck
 
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I have a Harrell "Schutzen" model and love it.

http://www.harrellsprec.com/
 
Posts: 808 | Location: Anchorage, Alaska | Registered: 04 January 2005Reply With Quote
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I have one and love it. Only certain powders require the slow movement of the handle. Mainly the larger stick type powders.
 
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I own 7 powder measures but nowadays only use 2 :

- handgun loads : the one that came with my Dillon XL650 ;

- rifles loads : Harrel's.

If I had to start over again, I'd go directly to these 2, enough said...



André
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3 shots do not make a group, they show a point of aim or impact.
5 shots are a group.
 
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Mike, I had a Jones they got a Bruno when he first started making them. Over the years I've kept a log on clicks to type powder used and the click adjustment have been pretty accurate.

Long stick powder like IMR-4350 is hard to get accurate click adjustments. I find powder like H-4831sc if using 50/70gr better to break that load in 1/2 or 1/3 they are more accurate.

I load at the range so my deal may be different that most and I don't want to take a scale along to verify. Well good luck.


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Posts: 1098 | Location: usa | Registered: 16 March 2001Reply With Quote
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I have two Harrels. You want the one whose max drop capacity is closest to your max loads. One of mine measures up to 60gr, it's a discontinued benchrest model that I use for 308 Win and smaller capacity cases. I also have a larger premium model that goes up to 120gr that I use for larger cartridges. I load for several magnum carts. I like them both, My older RCBS and Redding powder measures are put away in a box.
I have found that the best method (for me) of operating the handle is to raise the handle till it bumps at the top, then back off slightly and bump again. (This causes the powder, especially stick powder) to back in the measuring chamber more consistently. Then I bring the handle down quickly to drop the powder into the case. If I feel the measure cutting off the powder sticks, I throw that charge back into the hopper and go again.
I can throw 70 to 85gr charges in with in +/_ 0.1 grains most of the time. Occasionally, I get a 0.2gr variance. With these large amount of powder, I see very little difference when shooting over the chrono.
With the smaller measure or with ball or flake powders, I get even better consistency.
 
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I've had one for about 8 years. I've also had RCBS Uniflow, Lyman 55, C&H, Redding, Lee, Ohaus, B&M, and Dillon.

I use the Dillon for nearly all pistol loading, and the Redding for some pistol loading. The Harrell is used for all rifle loading, with the exception of .223 for AR's.

I like the Harrell, but it wasn't cheap. For powders like H4895, Varget and the like, it is spot on. I still cannot throw H4831 to the tenth with it though. But, I couldn't with any of the other measures, not even the B&M.


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Thanks for all the info guys


Mike

Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.



What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
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