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max i see in my old sierra book is 47.5 gr VARGET under a 180 gr BTSP in 30-06 i stuffed 49.0 gr VARGET in a few of em not on purpose. so.....pull em/shoot em? they are for a ruger #1 and an older mod 70. thanks | ||
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I would pull them As usual just my $.02 Paul K | |||
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I think you already know the answer. Why would you even consider shooting a load that is above a book max without any point of reference. | |||
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well....i don't have one of those smart aleky ballistic computer programs and i was hoping that someone that does have one would say it shows its a hot load but not dangerous. but i've pulled bullets before so its no big deal. damn tequilla shots! not really, i don't load and drink. i mean drink and load. soon as i can think a good enough lie that doesn't make me look so stupid i'll tell ya how it happened. | |||
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I'd pull them myself but some of my loads are 1-2 grains over book max but I crept up to it. You would probably be fine but why rick it in nice rifles??? If it cant be Grown it has to be Mined! Devoted member of Newmont mining company Underground Mine rescue team. Carlin East,Deep Star ,Leeville,Deep Post ,Chukar and now Exodus Where next? Pete Bajo to train newbies on long hole stoping and proper blasting techniques. Back to Exodus mine again learning teaching and operating autonomous loaders in the underground. Bringing everyday life to most individuals 8' at a time! | |||
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That is the key; you worked up to it; sure, book loads mean nothing to your particular rifle and load combinations; until they do. I use lots of loads above the book values; but I knew exactly what was going to happen before I pull the trigger. Probably "as in Hope" is not a Course of Action. OTOH, what is the worse that can happen? | |||
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If you want to use the 47.5 load why waste the components on the 49 gr load? I have one of those programs and it says 1.5gr adds 4000+ psi. Hodgdon list the 47.5 as the max of 50000cup. Even having the program I would not make that jump. MIGHT be ok doesn't get me to risk it. Work up over max sure. The key being work up. As usual just my $.02 Paul K | |||
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Pull them. | |||
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Id advise pull them, that said in reality Id shoot them and keep an eye out for presurer signs..then Id pull them or shoot them up..just speaking for myself... Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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What dpcd said. NRA Patron member | |||
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If its a few, pull them. If its a few hundred then work up 1/2 grin at a time with just one cartridge and see what happens. Load work-up can be after the fact. | |||
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You know you'll be able to shoot that heavy load at least once. . | |||
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Shoot the 47.5. See how they perform. If everything us OK, try 48.0 See how that works. If Ok try 48.5 and so on. No rifle is governed by book maximum. As already suggested by experienced shooters here, if you have worlked this up, no problem. We do that all the time. But not jumping to a load over book max and shoot it. We get an extraordinary number of rifles here. Some will not tolerate book max. Some would digest several grains more. As the old saying goes, use what is between your ears! | |||
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well i pulled all 90 hammer style and started over. it was a small win as when i re reloaded em i used less varget so my dwindling supply will last a bit longer. | |||
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Generalizing powder is what Im hearing..many powders fill a case and don't blow up the city block..two grs of Varget in this case isn't a terroist attack on the bench..I just shot your 49 gr load in my gun and didn't even mark the head, flat primer at best.. How do some of you understand your rifle if you don't carefully work up a true max load from one grain at a time to 1/2 gr. at a time until you see pressure sighs.. I know many reloaders the just shoot max loads from the book and are happy as can be...I would not do that for the world, but I will go a grain at a time then 1/2 grain too top it off until presure sighs show up sometimes in pairs, but that depends on the guns action, with lever guns I quit early usually when the lever moves then back off a grain and call it good, on a good bolt I go past theflat primer to another sigh of pressure whatever it may be then back off whatever...We have always flown by the seat of our pants, we don't have the equipment to do less, other than the chronograph, the best thing since sliced white bread..Just my two bits. I know some guys that give the back off reports, even though they are the worst violaters of the reloading process going..Do what I say don't do as I do is common as all get out!! Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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well in my case it was a case of mixing the load data for a 150 gr SP for a 180 gr SP. the charge for the 150 gr was no where near max for 150 gr but over max for a 180 gr SP. i grabbed the box of 180 gr Hornadys instead of the box of 150 gr Hornadys. stupid error but i caught it at the end when i had 10 left to do and the loaded by error 180 gr just felt heavier in the hand than the loaded 150 gr. so i pulled one, had an oh shit moment, and pulled the rest. i've heard many times "shit yea it's a hot load, its mine ain't it"? that's as stupid as the JUST VOTE mentality. | |||
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Granted thats unusual set of circumstances, glad you were focused. That would normally be a 3 or 4 gr. difference and that can be in the hot zone depending on the powder in question..Another good reason to use a bulky powder that fills a case at least up to the neck or better.. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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Pull em and replace with a 165 grainer, then you're good | |||
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