Absence of Alliant powders is regrettable as several in the range deliver superior performance. But handloaders can get by provided other manufacturers keep some level of supply going. But if another one or two of the other bigger suppliers were also to stop that would be quite serious for handloaders. It might even lead to repeat ammo shortages if shooters had to suddenly revert to buying ammo. However, a bigger, ongoing issue limiting handloaders currently is the poor availability of primers.
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Posts: 2118 | Location: New Zealand's North Island | Registered: 13 November 2014
I quit believing the BS about supply not meeting demand a long time ago. I'm convinced that its about political agendas. The bottom line is they are making more money than they would be selling to us.
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Posts: 10190 | Location: Tooele, Ut | Registered: 27 September 2001
Originally posted by Wstrnhuntr: I quit believing the BS about supply not meeting demand a long time ago. I'm convinced that its about political agendas. The bottom line is they are making more money than they would be selling to us.
I don't have enough insight to know about political agendas, but who knows ... ? But, for sure, those manufacturers filling military and govt. contracts are making much more money, much more easily by far at present. As is said, follow the money.
Hunting.... it's not everything, it's the only thing.
Posts: 2118 | Location: New Zealand's North Island | Registered: 13 November 2014
To Me there was not a shortage of 22 cal. then it was the primers and now it's the powder. Just like you said Wstrnhuntr all about the mighty dollar and slowly they are taking are guns away.no bullets no guns how sweet is that.
It is interesting to me that there is talk of powder shortages, yet just received an email from Hogdon announcing a brand new powder. So, when there is a powder shortage and primer shortage, companies can continue to release new calibers. Guess the only shortages are for older, well established calibers and not newly introduced ones.
Posts: 1678 | Location: Colorado, USA | Registered: 11 November 2002
I do not believe there is powder shortage,Think about it. First there were 22 riffle ammo shortages,then primer shortage and now POWDER. Once the powder and primers and ammo took a BIGGGG jump on prices,they want you to believe there is a shortage. To me They are slowly taking are rights away from owning our own firearms. If there is no primers or powder how are we to reload.price of ammo is almost out of my reach. I don't about you people but I quit shooting for my pleasure.
Originally posted by congomike: Guess the only shortages are for older, well established calibers and not newly introduced ones.
No kidding, thats a good point. I find myself rethinking which powders I want to stock for myself due to shortages and costs. All things Hodgdon and IMR are getting stupid expensive. But the downside to less spendy powders (besides availability) is lack of reloading data in years worth of reloading books. Those who want to make life hard for shooters seem to be doing a good job of it.
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Posts: 10190 | Location: Tooele, Ut | Registered: 27 September 2001
There is a world wide shortage of Nitrocellulose due to production for the wars going on. Think Artillery and tank cannon propellant. Just bigger versions of rifle powder. Only we load it by the pound; not by the grain. Much of the shortage mentioned previously is from overbuying and hoarding of components rather than an actual shortage. Now it is real.
Posts: 17437 | Location: USA | Registered: 02 August 2009
If the most productive nation in the world is struggling to keep up with powder supply for 2 small wars that we arent even engaged in, what does that say about our ability to wage a real war ourselves? Not good..
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Posts: 10190 | Location: Tooele, Ut | Registered: 27 September 2001
Today, it is the brand only, right?. They don't actually make anything. It is just reseller of Nitrochemie Switzerland and other real powder makers what I know...
I shoot a lot of Allient powders including 15,17,22,25,26,33. Experience has taught me to be prepared for these short times. I have enough to last my great grandson all he will need. I also shoot many other powders and have enough of those we use to last also. Looking in my powder box I found an 8 pound bottle of H-1000 and W-760 marked $100 per bottle as an example. The reloader must stay prepared to keep up in the future. Good Shooting.
phurley
Posts: 2371 | Location: KY | Registered: 22 September 2004
This is of course part of our problem, PH - people gathering heaps of stuff they will never use. Though modern powders may keep better than some old ones, I would not feel comfortable passing really old stuff down that far, expecting my grandson to risk it.
At least with toilet paper, almost everyone uses it and "it goes ... it goes ... it just goes".
Perhaps you could let shooters in your area know you have lots of Alliant powder and offer to trade or share some with them.
Posts: 5186 | Location: Melbourne, Australia | Registered: 31 March 2009
No problems keeping powder as long as it is cool and dry where stored. I have a buddy that is still reloading World War II 4831 that was made in Australia back then and it still is good as gold. I reload for grandsons and their buddies and we all so a lot of shooting besides hunting so we require a lot of powder thus just planning for the future. I know I cannot pay those big prices in retirement. Good Shooting.
phurley
Posts: 2371 | Location: KY | Registered: 22 September 2004
Originally posted by crbutler: Jiri, are those gone over in Europe as well?
Are the manufacturers still selling it to the European reloading market or have they shut down as well and selling only to military contracts?
Powders are still available here. But truly I don't know if those are "old stock" or new is delivered to shops. I have to ask. I have stockpiled all I need for pistols, revolvers, shotguns and rifles for years, so didn't check so far.
