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Anyone using Rel 33 in their 6.5-06 or AI
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I've had great results using Rel 33 in my 264 win mag and was wondering if anyone was using it in their 6.5-06 or AI.
I have a 6.5-06AI and have started looking into a hunting load with 130 Nosler AB.
Any info would be appreciated.
 
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I had my own wildcat basically the same as a 6.5 Gibbs. The super slow powders didn't exist at that time. I had fantastic results with 7828 MRP and RL22.

I think the 264 larger case would let you get by with something like RL33. For me in a smaller case I would just look to a slightly faster powder. QL makes RL26 look good as well.


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Didn't see the 6.5-06AI in QL so increase the 6.5-06 capacity by 4%.
Cartridge          : 6.5-06 A-Square
Bullet             : .264, 130, Nosler AccuBond 56902
Useable Case Capaci: 64.667 grain H2O = 4.199 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 63000 psi, or 434 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 105 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

130 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 80%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
Alliant Reloder-26                  96.7     62.0     4.02    3188   100.0    63000   13760   1.157  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 517                102.5     65.2     4.22    3178    99.6    63000   14159   1.137  ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 12                  102.3     65.1     4.22    3177    99.6    63000   14131   1.137  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N560                     99.6     60.7     3.93    3175    98.9    63000   14418   1.143  ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP                           97.8     60.8     3.94    3173   100.0    63000   13949   1.150  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 70                   95.0     60.3     3.91    3170   100.0    63000   13530   1.134  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828                           104.1     60.3     3.91    3168    99.3    63000   13979   1.132  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 7828 SSC                        98.5     60.3     3.91    3168    99.3    63000   13979   1.132  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate MAGPRO                     99.9     63.3     4.10    3166    97.9    63000   14530   1.151  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-25                 105.0     62.3     4.03    3157   100.0    61677   13379   1.151  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2213                         99.6     60.0     3.89    3155    99.2    63000   13858   1.130  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AP 2214                        103.4     64.0     4.15    3152    99.4    63000   13681   1.128  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA15                        99.9     60.2     3.90    3149    99.8    63000   13814   1.149  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation        99.9     60.2     3.90    3149    99.8    63000   13814   1.149  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-22                  99.9     60.2     3.90    3149    99.8    63000   13814   1.149  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester WXR                     102.6     60.5     3.92    3148    99.7    63000   13834   1.149  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP15                        102.6     60.5     3.92    3148    99.7    63000   13834   1.149  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Magnum                      99.7     64.7     4.19    3129   100.0    63000   13191   1.145  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 60                   88.6     55.4     3.59    3128   100.0    63000   12410   1.143  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5 NT ~approximation       103.2     62.7     4.07    3122    97.8    63000   13717   1.132  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R905                      101.2     59.9     3.88    3120    98.9    63000   13555   1.147  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2209                         96.5     57.2     3.71    3112    99.7    63000   13135   1.136  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-19                  97.0     57.8     3.75    3109    99.7    63000   13194   1.143  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-17                  87.7     54.9     3.55    3107   100.0    63000   12328   1.149  ! Near Maximum !
Elcho 17                            87.7     54.9     3.55    3107   100.0    63000   12328   1.149  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-23                 102.2     59.6     3.86    3104   100.0    63000   12412   1.159  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP14 ~approximation          97.7     58.2     3.77    3102    99.7    63000   13103   1.144  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N570                    105.0     66.0     4.28    3101    94.5    54937   15343   1.214
Hodgdon H414                        87.5     55.2     3.57    3099   100.0    63000   12766   1.150  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760                      87.5     55.2     3.57    3099   100.0    63000   12766   1.150  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 511                 89.6     56.9     3.69    3098   100.0    63000   12694   1.150  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter                      92.6     57.0     3.69    3096   100.0    63000   12677   1.151  ! Near Maximum !
ReloadSwiss RS 62                   91.0     56.9     3.68    3091   100.0    63000   12437   1.165  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831                      102.2     59.2     3.84    3088    98.7    63000   13093   1.140  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4831 SC                    98.3     59.2     3.84    3088    98.7    63000   13093   1.140  ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP 2                        105.0     62.6     4.06    3088    98.9    57237   14171   1.205  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP30                        105.0     62.6     4.06    3088    98.9    57237   14171   1.205  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA4                         95.1     56.7     3.67    3088    99.6    63000   12885   1.143  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204                           92.1     56.7     3.67    3088    99.6    63000   12885   1.143  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 ~approximation           95.1     56.7     3.67    3088    99.6    63000   12885   1.143  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550                     89.6     54.6     3.54    3073   100.0    63000   12290   1.159  ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP                           92.2     54.3     3.52    3072   100.0    63000   12150   1.156  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP19 ~approximation          92.2     54.4     3.52    3072   100.0    63000   12146   1.156  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-33                 105.0     68.8     4.46    3069    94.7    53949   15098   1.226
Somchem S365                        93.8     55.6     3.60    3069   100.0    63000   11783   1.165  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S385                        97.1     58.5     3.79    3068    99.9    63000   12578   1.163  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350                       91.3     54.4     3.53    3066   100.0    63000   12109   1.174  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R904                       96.1     56.5     3.66    3062    99.1    63000   12623   1.143  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester Supreme 780              95.8     60.2     3.90    3062    99.7    63000   12554   1.149  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 NT ~approximation        92.8     56.2     3.64    3060   100.0    63000   12358   1.155  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N165                    102.3     60.3     3.91    3054    99.9    63000   12311   1.154  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831                            96.7     55.2     3.58    3053   100.0    63000   11890   1.165  ! Near Maximum !


As usual just my $.02
Paul K
 
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Thanks for the help.
 
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I load for two 6.5-06 Ackleys one in a 1903 Springfield and the other in a 98 Mauser. While I have not tried RL 33, I think it may be too slow in that cartridge with a 130 bullet.

I use RL 22 and 7828 with Hornady 129 gr and Nosler 130 gr bullets. 57gr of 7828 is my favorite.

You can work up loads starting near max for listed 6.5-06 A-Square in most printed and on-line loading manuals. If you want to cross check with QL the closest commercial cartridge is the 6.5x68 Brennecke. It is very similar in size shape and case capacity, with the 6.5-06 having a slight edge.

Recently I have trying to develop a load using IMR Enduron 7977, but it may be best suited for 140 gr bullets because it is close to H1000 in burn rate. Thuso I am going to try using Enduron 4955 that is slightly slower than 4831.

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