I currently load only handgun calibers and have been a long time loyal CCI primer user. Lately it seems CCI primers have been less than dependable which when you're shooting steel for a time score is not desirable. I might have 2 or 3 out of 100 that don’t fire.

Now admittedly the gun I have the most trouble with is a Ruger GP100 which I swapped out springs changing the main spring one step down from factory (which I feel anyone ought to get away with).

Does anyone have any input on this at all and I suppose one question I’d also like the answer to is, is there a primer that is more sensitive than the others making it less likely to misfire, especially under lighter main spring conditions.

The Federal primers are the ones that my gunsmith who did the action work on my revolvers stated to use. So far (5 years) I have not had problems with federal standard type LP or SP primers, but I have had what you describe with Winchester and CCI occasionally and Wolf and Magtech regularly.

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Originally posted by crbutler:
The Federal primers are the ones that my gunsmith who did the action work on my revolvers stated to use. So far (5 years) I have not had problems with federal standard type LP or SP primers, but I have had what you describe with Winchester and CCI occasionally and Wolf and Magtech regularly.

Dang I wish I knew that about 8 hours ago, to late now. Well next time.

Defective primers seem to have become more common as of late.

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Originally posted by craigster:
Defective primers seem to have become more common as of late.

I'll say, first time in over 30 years I'm saying this.

Yup, in 35 +/- years of reloading the last couple years have had the only duds I can remember.

in the world of pistol primers cci's have much harder cups and federals are the softest. not unusual for pistols not to function with cci and work fine with federals. most notable of these are the striker fired autos that have had the spring cut down to less the trigger pull.

butchloc that's exactly what's happening to me.

Here's the good news, I woke up this morning and found an email in my inbox that there was a problem with the credit card information on my 10,000 CCI primer order. Knowing that one wouldn’t go through I changed the order to Federals...Yippeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!

buy a lottery ticket - quick

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Originally posted by craigster:
Defective primers seem to have become more common as of late.

Sounds like a Design Benefit which allows you to see if you are Flinching?

You're right and it does.

I am into my 3rd batch of 5k CCI's in the last 2 years and so far I have not had one fail to go bang (M&P, Sig). Our plate season is just starting up for the year, I hope I don't get to practice clearing jams!!
C.G.B.

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Originally posted by cgbach:
I am into my 3rd batch of 5k CCI's in the last 2 years and so far I have not had one fail to go bang (M&P, Sig). Our plate season is just starting up for the year, I hope I don't get to practice clearing jams!!
C.G.B.

Its good practice, first you know if you flinched then you get a time trial clear and reload. It doesn’t help put you in the top 3 though.

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Defective primers seem to have become more common as of late.

Never have so many been manufactured either , Kind of like Vehicles !!!.

The ONLY brand I've ever had a problem with and this was before many of you fired a weapon ,was CCi Pistol primers . Brand new out of the box , loaded my 44 Mag click click a couple of duds . Others were fine but out of every box of a hundred 2-3 duds .

I burned that lot of them up target shooting and used Winchester an Federal for hunting . Nothing like depending on your weapon and hearing CLICK ,CLICK! ,DUH , OH SHIT, AH , OH RUN RUN !!!.

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Originally posted by Hot Core:

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Originally posted by craigster:
Defective primers seem to have become more common as of late.

Sounds like a Design Benefit which allows you to see if you are Flinching?

A manufacturing flaw becomes a "Design Benefit". You'd make a great Presidental spokesperson.

At the risk of sounding like a politician--sometimes a fail to fire can do just that--also shooting indoors-- I once told someone who knew better that I had no flash from my handguns--he said I was wrong and was just flinching--after shooting a few years indoors where the flash is a lot more evident--he was right--I learned this after having a few FTFs...........lo these many years ago