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What's the most versitile powder, caliber wise?
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I was just wondering what the most versatile powder is that would work for a 30-06, 35 remington, 375 h&h, 303 british, 8mm mauser, 45-70, .223 rem, or 338 win mag. it doesn't have to work perfect for all calibers but must be able to be used in most calibers with close to factory specs for velocity
 
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4064 or one of the 4895's will do it if need be in most bullet weights for the calibers listed, 338 is kind of the odd man out in this line-up and benefits from a slower burn rate. FWIW I load for or have loaded for all calibers listed except the 35 rem, and have used one of the above powders at one time or another.
 
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4064 was my first thought too. The odd man left out is fine as long as it's better for most of them. the 338 was honestly the last one I would need the powder for. Thanks for the reply. I'm really looking for a powder I could stock up on to use for multiple calibers if the need arise. I probably wont need it, but it would be nice to have a very versatile powder on hand.
 
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Extruded IMR4350
Ball H380
For use in rifles
Unique in pistoles
Lots of data available for theese , as well as 4064 and 4895


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4895 would be my first choice as very versatile.
 
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4895.

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..the most versatile powder is that would work for a 30-06, 35 remington, 375 h&h, 303 british, 8mm mauser, 45-70, .223 rem, or 338 win mag. ...with close to factory specs for velocity
There is no Powder that fits this criteria.
 
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..the most versatile powder is that would work for a 30-06, 35 remington, 375 h&h, 303 british, 8mm mauser, 45-70, .223 rem, or 338 win mag. ...with close to factory specs for velocity
There is no Powder that fits this criteria.

Well, I just checked the IMR load data and IMR 4064 gets all these cartidges very close to or exceeding factory velocity.
 
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Well, I just checked the IMR load data and IMR 4064 gets all these cartidges very close to or exceeding factory velocity.

You are correct.
 
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IMR 4064 was my first thought, then IMR 4350.

What about H414?


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..the most versatile powder is that would work for a 30-06, 35 remington, 375 h&h, 303 british, 8mm mauser, 45-70, .223 rem, or 338 win mag. ...with close to factory specs for velocity
There is no Powder that fits this criteria.

Given that one should have at least two different powders to load the 110 and 220 grain bullet in the .30-06 alone and neither of the ones I'd choose will work well in the .223 and I have no experience with the many different loadings of the .45-70 I'd have to agree with Hot Core on this.

That said there are a few pwders that would do well in a large variety of cartridges and these include
H-4895, IMR-4064, Rl-15, H-414, BL-C(2), H-4350 and H-4831.....if these are in your powder cabinet then you're pretty set for rifle cartridge reloading.....but just one?????


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4064 RL15 ect.
 
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RL7, I use RL7 in my 223's and in my 45-70's. Tom.


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...Well, I just checked the IMR load data and IMR 4064 gets all these cartidges very close to or exceeding factory velocity.
It is a great Powder in "some" rifles. I hope it works well for you in yours.
 
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Don't try to get hung up on one or two powders to cover all your chamberings. Ever heard the saying about jack of all trades but master of none?

The whoe reason to handload is to put together quality ammo, and to do that you need the best powder for the task.

You could probably cover most of your bases with Reloader 7, Reloader 15, and Hodgdon 4350. But if you aren't getting the performance you desire in one of those chamberings, don't hesitate to try another powder.


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4895 is close enough for horseshoes, hand grenades and thermonuclear weapons....
 
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yeah, I like my variety of powders, I was just getting an idea of what could be used in a pinch if I ran out of my choice powders.
I've used RL19, RL7, IMR4064, IMR4350, HBenchmark, H4895.

OK, since this thread is still going pretty well, what is the best powder to get factory velocities that are accurate in the 375h&h with 235gr and 270 gr bullets?
I had some 4064 left over and am using that now with the speer 235 gr bullet at around 2700 fps.
Is this an accurate powder for light weight bullets in this caliber?
 
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for me I use Reloader 15. I use this powder in my 375 ruger, 35 whelen, 7mm mag and 9.3x62 with outstanding accuracy and the velocity is there also.
 
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I have used AA3100 in just about everything from .220 swift to .338 WM. Slow burning, not a lot of velocity in some loads, but then I don't load anything to max velocity anyway.
 
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When my Step Dad hit the scene right after WW II, he only had two powders in the house. And he loaded for a lot of different chamberings.
One was 4064, and the other was 4227 for his Hornet. He never had any other powders in the house... I still get a chuckle out of that Big Grin

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IMR4350 I use it in, and it gives best accuracy in my: .243, 30-06, 8mm, 7mm-08, 338 mag, .375 H&H and my old .460 Weatherby. And everything in between it has worked very well indeed.
 
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I too try to find a single powder...

You can get close but not perfect.

I have found 4895, 4350, and Varget to be very versatile powders


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I agree w/ Hotcore, no single powder is going to give you factory vel. across the bullet spectrum. That said, a med. burner like 4064, RL15 or VV150 will "work". The compromise will be the 338winmag & maybe the 45-70.


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All those rifles and only one powder... What fun is that??

I have a funny kind of idea about my rifle loads which is that if I cant get it to perform on par with factory velocities (or at least close) then I need to fix it. That would be hard to do with only one powder.
 
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