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What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
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What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
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Mike, I've never loaded for the Styer, but I hope this helps. Since you didn't mention which Barnes bullet you were contemplating, I ran it for both the TSX and the solid. Not knowing your barrel length, I used a standard 24 inches.

Cartridge          : .376 Steyr
Bullet             : .375, 270, Barnes 'TSX' 37556
Useable Case Capaci: 62.998 grain H2O = 4.090 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.110 inch = 78.99 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder             : Hodgdon VARGET

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 0.855% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-08.5   95    53.50   2302    3178   43497   6139     95.7    1.365
-07.7   96    54.00   2322    3233   44647   6195     96.0    1.351
-06.8   97    54.50   2342    3289   45827   6251     96.3    1.336
-06.0   98    55.00   2362    3345   47041   6305     96.5    1.320
-05.1   99    55.50   2382    3401   48285   6358     96.8    1.305
-04.3  100    56.00   2402    3458   49559   6410     97.1    1.290
-03.4  101    56.50   2422    3516   50865   6460     97.3    1.275
-02.6  101    57.00   2441    3574   52205   6509     97.6    1.261
-01.7  102    57.50   2461    3632   53580   6557     97.8    1.247  ! Near Maximum !
-00.9  103    58.00   2481    3690   54994   6604     98.0    1.233  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0  104    58.50   2501    3750   56448   6649     98.3    1.219  ! Near Maximum !
+00.9  105    59.00   2521    3809   57945   6692     98.4    1.205  ! Near Maximum !
+01.7  106    59.50   2540    3869   59485   6735     98.6    1.192  ! Near Maximum !
+02.6  107    60.00   2560    3929   61069   6775     98.8    1.179  ! Near Maximum !
+03.4  108    60.50   2580    3990   62701   6814     99.0    1.166  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.3  109    61.00   2599    4051   64380   6852     99.1    1.153  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!


Cartridge          : .376 Steyr
Bullet             : .375, 270, Barnes Solid RN 37512
Useable Case Capaci: 66.290 grain H2O = 4.304 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.110 inch = 78.99 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Powder             : Hodgdon VARGET

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 0.82% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-08.2   95    56.00   2342    3288   43344   6500     96.2    1.354
-07.4   96    56.50   2361    3343   44465   6555     96.5    1.338
-06.6   96    57.00   2381    3398   45611   6610     96.8    1.323
-05.7   97    57.50   2400    3454   46785   6663     97.1    1.308
-04.9   98    58.00   2420    3510   47990   6715     97.3    1.294
-04.1   99    58.50   2439    3567   49227   6766     97.6    1.280
-03.3  100    59.00   2458    3623   50496   6816     97.8    1.265
-02.5  101    59.50   2478    3681   51798   6864     98.0    1.251
-01.6  101    60.00   2497    3738   53136   6911     98.2    1.238  ! Near Maximum !
-00.8  102    60.50   2516    3796   54509   6956     98.4    1.224  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0  103    61.00   2536    3855   55919   7000     98.6    1.211  ! Near Maximum !
+00.8  104    61.50   2555    3914   57367   7043     98.8    1.198  ! Near Maximum !
+01.6  105    62.00   2574    3973   58855   7084     98.9    1.185  ! Near Maximum !
+02.5  106    62.50   2593    4032   60383   7123     99.1    1.172  ! Near Maximum !
+03.3  107    63.00   2613    4092   61953   7161     99.2    1.159  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.1  107    63.50   2632    4152   63567   7198     99.4    1.147  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!


Let me know if you need something more.
 
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AS,

That is very helpful, thank you. The actual bullet is the Barnes X, COL is 3.29, bbl length is 23".

I would be curious what data those changes produce.

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What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
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Mike, a shorter bullet and a longer COL would produce a good deal more useable case capacity, about 3-4 grains over the above info.
 
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Mike, I adjusted to your specs. I found the results kind of interesting...
Cartridge          : .376 Steyr
Bullet             : .375, 270, Barnes 'X' S 37585
Useable Case Capaci: 68.112 grain H2O = 4.422 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.290 inch = 83.57 mm
Barrel Length      : 23.0 inch = 584.2 mm
Powder             : Hodgdon VARGET

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 0.806% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-08.1   94    57.00   2363    3349   47834   6978     96.9    1.257
-07.3   95    57.50   2382    3402   48925   7034     97.2    1.245
-06.5   95    58.00   2401    3455   50044   7090     97.4    1.234
-05.6   96    58.50   2419    3508   51191   7144     97.6    1.223
-04.8   97    59.00   2438    3562   52367   7198     97.9    1.213
-04.0   98    59.50   2456    3616   53573   7249     98.1    1.202  ! Near Maximum !
-03.2   99    60.00   2475    3671   54810   7300     98.2    1.191  ! Near Maximum !
-02.4  100    60.50   2493    3726   56079   7350     98.4    1.181  ! Near Maximum !
-01.6  100    61.00   2511    3781   57380   7398     98.6    1.170  ! Near Maximum !
-00.8  101    61.50   2530    3837   58715   7444     98.8    1.160  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0  102    62.00   2548    3893   60084   7490     98.9    1.150  ! Near Maximum !
+00.8  103    62.50   2567    3950   61489   7534     99.1    1.140  ! Near Maximum !
+01.6  104    63.00   2585    4006   62931   7576     99.2    1.130  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.4  105    63.50   2603    4063   64411   7617     99.3    1.120  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+03.2  105    64.00   2622    4121   65931   7657     99.4    1.110  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0  106    64.50   2640    4179   67491   7695     99.5    1.098  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 3% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 3% relative to nominal value:
+Ba    102    62.00   2581    3993   62951   7459     99.6    1.130  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 3% relative to nominal value:
-Ba    102    62.00   2513    3786   57246   7490     97.9    1.170  ! Near Maximum !

 
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Mike, since I had everything set up, I figured I would run one more sim for you. If for what ever reason the rifle doesn't like Varget, it could give you a few other options.

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 61600 psi, or 424 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 108 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

4 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 50%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
Alliant Reloder-17                 102.2     67.3     4.36    2653    99.3    61600    8163   1.115  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N550                    107.7     69.1     4.48    2648    98.5    61600    8362   1.131  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414                       105.3     69.9     4.53    2646    96.2    61600    8417   1.123  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760                     105.3     69.9     4.53    2646    96.2    61600    8417   1.123  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot BigGame                    103.6     67.1     4.35    2638    99.5    61600    8019   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 11                  103.7     67.2     4.36    2637    99.5    61600    8008   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4895                            99.7     62.6     4.06    2620    99.6    61600    7911   1.142  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon BL-C2                       95.1     65.2     4.22    2612    99.9    61600    7750   1.143  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203B                         101.0     63.4     4.11    2609    99.5    61600    7818   1.144  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203 old                      102.6     65.1     4.22    2608    99.9    61600    7729   1.150  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA11                       100.5     63.1     4.09    2608    99.2    61600    7853   1.144  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-15                 100.5     63.1     4.09    2608    99.2    61600    7853   1.144  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP11 ~approximation         100.5     63.1     4.09    2608    99.2    61600    7853   1.144  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 748                      92.6     62.6     4.05    2608   100.0    61600    7445   1.135  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R903                      104.9     65.2     4.22    2600    99.8    61600    7651   1.151  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 3031                           100.4     58.9     3.82    2597   100.0    61600    7012   1.140  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4320                           102.6     63.4     4.11    2594    99.4    61600    7566   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4895                       96.9     60.8     3.94    2594    99.8    61600    7630   1.145  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H380                       101.8     65.3     4.23    2593    98.3    61600    7881   1.147  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S355                       104.8     64.4     4.17    2592    99.7    61600    7653   1.150  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2206H                        97.2     61.1     3.96    2589    99.5    61600    7657   1.145  ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 9                    97.9     63.5     4.11    2585    99.5    61600    7606   1.140  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 516                 98.0     65.6     4.25    2584    98.2    61600    7779   1.142  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D073.6                        97.3     63.0     4.08    2583   100.0    61600    7213   1.156  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2520                       97.3     63.0     4.08    2583   100.0    61600    7213   1.156  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4064                      107.0     62.8     4.07    2583   100.0    61600    7187   1.172  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 507                 94.3     61.8     4.00    2578    99.9    61600    7408   1.144  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot TAC                         91.7     61.7     4.00    2578    99.9    61600    7391   1.144  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S321                        92.5     62.5     4.05    2577   100.0    61600    7432   1.149  ! Near Maximum !
Norma URP                          108.0     67.1     4.35    2577    97.9    56119    8092   1.166  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP19 ~approximation         108.0     67.1     4.35    2576    97.9    56067    8088   1.166  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter                     108.0     70.0     4.54    2572    95.9    55650    8262   1.165  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S062                         101.5     62.0     4.02    2570    99.9    61600    7339   1.153  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S341                        96.1     64.9     4.21    2569    99.4    61600    7399   1.142  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2208                        102.6     62.5     4.05    2568    99.1    61600    7537   1.139  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon VARGET                     103.0     62.5     4.05    2568    99.1    61600    7537   1.139  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP7 NT ~approximation       103.2     65.4     4.24    2568    96.4    61600    7651   1.127  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N540                    100.0     63.5     4.11    2567   100.0    61600    7195   1.147  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N530                     93.4     59.0     3.82    2567    99.9    61600    7299   1.145  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204                          108.0     70.0     4.54    2565    92.8    58813    8077   1.146  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H335                        88.1     60.4     3.91    2565   100.0    61600    7051   1.145  ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 7                    95.9     64.6     4.19    2562    98.1    61600    7576   1.154  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S065                         108.0     66.3     4.30    2562    97.4    61286    7720   1.155  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 202                           97.7     60.3     3.91    2562   100.0    61600    7032   1.151  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2495                       99.4     59.0     3.82    2561   100.0    61600    6859   1.180  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4064                           103.7     61.5     3.98    2560    99.2    61600    7389   1.144  ! Near Maximum !
SNPE Vectan SP 10                   87.8     58.9     3.81    2560   100.0    61600    7009   1.149  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 8208 XBR                        95.5     60.0     3.89    2560    99.9    61600    7228   1.146  ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 508 (PCL223)        87.7     59.0     3.82    2559   100.0    61600    7000   1.149  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 201                           94.1     60.3     3.91    2557    99.9    61600    7295   1.160  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP3 NT ~approximation       105.3     65.7     4.25    2557    97.4    61600    7540   1.136  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2219                         87.7     56.9     3.69    2553   100.0    61600    6800   1.144  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H322                        93.3     56.9     3.69    2553   100.0    61600    6800   1.144  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R907                      106.5     65.7     4.25    2551    95.4    61600    7719   1.152  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4007 SSC                       103.2     65.7     4.26    2550    95.4    61600    7713   1.153  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R902                      100.1     60.6     3.93    2549    99.9    61600    7200   1.164  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot X-Terminator                86.0     57.8     3.75    2547   100.0    61600    6832   1.151  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2460                       91.1     61.4     3.98    2546   100.0    61600    7035   1.167  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D073.5                        91.1     61.4     3.98    2546   100.0    61600    7035   1.167  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S070                         108.0     67.1     4.35    2544    95.8    58654    7850   1.172  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S365                       108.0     67.4     4.37    2541    99.6    50449    7957   1.201
Nitrochemie A/S 0300                84.8     54.7     3.54    2539   100.0    61600    6531   1.153  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N135                    106.5     60.6     3.93    2538   100.0    61600    6561   1.155  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N140                     99.8     61.5     3.98    2538   100.0    61600    6755   1.150  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2230                       89.6     60.3     3.91    2535   100.0    61600    6925   1.165  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D073.4                        89.6     60.3     3.91    2535   100.0    61600    6925   1.165  ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R901                       96.1     57.3     3.71    2534   100.0    61600    6890   1.177  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP2 NT ~approximation        96.7     60.2     3.90    2533    99.7    61600    7096   1.147  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 NT ~approximation       108.0     68.8     4.46    2531    94.7    56593    7874   1.172  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2210                         88.9     57.6     3.73    2528   100.0    61600    6907   1.152  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-12                  93.2     59.7     3.87    2527   100.0    61600    6652   1.151  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S060                          97.4     59.5     3.86    2524    99.5    61600    7069   1.150  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Benchmark                   94.6     58.5     3.79    2522   100.0    61600    6876   1.153  ! Near Maximum !
ADI BM2                             87.1     58.2     3.77    2521   100.0    61600    6857   1.153  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4350                           108.0     67.4     4.37    2519    94.5    57391    7668   1.168  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2206                         96.7     60.1     3.89    2516    99.7    61600    6968   1.151  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2200                       86.3     55.0     3.57    2514   100.0    61600    6666   1.152  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N150                    108.0     64.0     4.15    2513    99.9    57863    7127   1.173  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-10x                 90.7     53.7     3.48    2507   100.0    61600    6366   1.166  ! Near Maximum !
SF-033 fl                           87.2     56.0     3.63    2503   100.0    61600    6183   1.171  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2700                      104.1     67.5     4.37    2499    94.9    61600    7223   1.161  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2015                       92.2     56.0     3.63    2498   100.0    61600    6305   1.171  ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S335                        97.5     59.9     3.88    2497   100.0    61600    6483   1.166  ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP1 NT ~approximation        87.2     53.1     3.44    2482   100.0    61600    6274   1.149  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 200                           82.0     53.3     3.45    2482   100.0    61600    6180   1.183  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N133                     99.3     57.1     3.70    2478   100.0    61600    6124   1.159  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 1680                       76.9     51.9     3.36    2478   100.0    61600    6202   1.157  ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA4                        108.0     67.8     4.39    2477    91.2    52843    7798   1.196
Bofors RP4 ~approximation          108.0     67.8     4.39    2477    91.2    52843    7798   1.196
Hodgdon H4350                      108.0     66.3     4.30    2473    93.6    54158    7531   1.195  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4198                       87.8     51.8     3.35    2471   100.0    61600    6139   1.152  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4350                      108.0     64.9     4.20    2467    96.6    49048    7834   1.239
IMR 4198                            90.3     50.9     3.30    2465   100.0    61600    5915   1.153  ! Near Maximum !

 
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What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
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