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????? Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue. What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | ||
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btt Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue. What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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Mike, I've never loaded for the Styer, but I hope this helps. Since you didn't mention which Barnes bullet you were contemplating, I ran it for both the TSX and the solid. Not knowing your barrel length, I used a standard 24 inches. Cartridge : .376 Steyr Bullet : .375, 270, Barnes 'TSX' 37556 Useable Case Capaci: 62.998 grain H2O = 4.090 cm³ Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.110 inch = 78.99 mm Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm Powder : Hodgdon VARGET Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge, incremented in steps of 0.855% of nominal charge. CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads ! Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time % % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms -08.5 95 53.50 2302 3178 43497 6139 95.7 1.365 -07.7 96 54.00 2322 3233 44647 6195 96.0 1.351 -06.8 97 54.50 2342 3289 45827 6251 96.3 1.336 -06.0 98 55.00 2362 3345 47041 6305 96.5 1.320 -05.1 99 55.50 2382 3401 48285 6358 96.8 1.305 -04.3 100 56.00 2402 3458 49559 6410 97.1 1.290 -03.4 101 56.50 2422 3516 50865 6460 97.3 1.275 -02.6 101 57.00 2441 3574 52205 6509 97.6 1.261 -01.7 102 57.50 2461 3632 53580 6557 97.8 1.247 ! Near Maximum ! -00.9 103 58.00 2481 3690 54994 6604 98.0 1.233 ! Near Maximum ! +00.0 104 58.50 2501 3750 56448 6649 98.3 1.219 ! Near Maximum ! +00.9 105 59.00 2521 3809 57945 6692 98.4 1.205 ! Near Maximum ! +01.7 106 59.50 2540 3869 59485 6735 98.6 1.192 ! Near Maximum ! +02.6 107 60.00 2560 3929 61069 6775 98.8 1.179 ! Near Maximum ! +03.4 108 60.50 2580 3990 62701 6814 99.0 1.166 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! +04.3 109 61.00 2599 4051 64380 6852 99.1 1.153 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Cartridge : .376 Steyr Bullet : .375, 270, Barnes Solid RN 37512 Useable Case Capaci: 66.290 grain H2O = 4.304 cm³ Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.110 inch = 78.99 mm Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm Powder : Hodgdon VARGET Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge, incremented in steps of 0.82% of nominal charge. CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads ! Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time % % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms -08.2 95 56.00 2342 3288 43344 6500 96.2 1.354 -07.4 96 56.50 2361 3343 44465 6555 96.5 1.338 -06.6 96 57.00 2381 3398 45611 6610 96.8 1.323 -05.7 97 57.50 2400 3454 46785 6663 97.1 1.308 -04.9 98 58.00 2420 3510 47990 6715 97.3 1.294 -04.1 99 58.50 2439 3567 49227 6766 97.6 1.280 -03.3 100 59.00 2458 3623 50496 6816 97.8 1.265 -02.5 101 59.50 2478 3681 51798 6864 98.0 1.251 -01.6 101 60.00 2497 3738 53136 6911 98.2 1.238 ! Near Maximum ! -00.8 102 60.50 2516 3796 54509 6956 98.4 1.224 ! Near Maximum ! +00.0 103 61.00 2536 3855 55919 7000 98.6 1.211 ! Near Maximum ! +00.8 104 61.50 2555 3914 57367 7043 98.8 1.198 ! Near Maximum ! +01.6 105 62.00 2574 3973 58855 7084 98.9 1.185 ! Near Maximum ! +02.5 106 62.50 2593 4032 60383 7123 99.1 1.172 ! Near Maximum ! +03.3 107 63.00 2613 4092 61953 7161 99.2 1.159 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! +04.1 107 63.50 2632 4152 63567 7198 99.4 1.147 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Let me know if you need something more. | |||
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AS, That is very helpful, thank you. The actual bullet is the Barnes X, COL is 3.29, bbl length is 23". I would be curious what data those changes produce. Thanks, Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue. What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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Mike, a shorter bullet and a longer COL would produce a good deal more useable case capacity, about 3-4 grains over the above info. | |||
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Mike, I adjusted to your specs. I found the results kind of interesting... Cartridge : .376 Steyr Bullet : .375, 270, Barnes 'X' S 37585 Useable Case Capaci: 68.112 grain H2O = 4.422 cm³ Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.290 inch = 83.57 mm Barrel Length : 23.0 inch = 584.2 mm Powder : Hodgdon VARGET Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge, incremented in steps of 0.806% of nominal charge. CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads ! Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time % % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms -08.1 94 57.00 2363 3349 47834 6978 96.9 1.257 -07.3 95 57.50 2382 3402 48925 7034 97.2 1.245 -06.5 95 58.00 2401 3455 50044 7090 97.4 1.234 -05.6 96 58.50 2419 3508 51191 7144 97.6 1.223 -04.8 97 59.00 2438 3562 52367 7198 97.9 1.213 -04.0 98 59.50 2456 3616 53573 7249 98.1 1.202 ! Near Maximum ! -03.2 99 60.00 2475 3671 54810 7300 98.2 1.191 ! Near Maximum ! -02.4 100 60.50 2493 3726 56079 7350 98.4 1.181 ! Near Maximum ! -01.6 100 61.00 2511 3781 57380 7398 98.6 1.170 ! Near Maximum ! -00.8 101 61.50 2530 3837 58715 7444 98.8 1.160 ! Near Maximum ! +00.0 102 62.00 2548 3893 60084 7490 98.9 1.150 ! Near Maximum ! +00.8 103 62.50 2567 3950 61489 7534 99.1 1.140 ! Near Maximum ! +01.6 104 63.00 2585 4006 62931 7576 99.2 1.130 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! +02.4 105 63.50 2603 4063 64411 7617 99.3 1.120 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! +03.2 105 64.00 2622 4121 65931 7657 99.4 1.110 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! +04.0 106 64.50 2640 4179 67491 7695 99.5 1.098 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Results caused by ± 3% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge Data for burning rate increased by 3% relative to nominal value: +Ba 102 62.00 2581 3993 62951 7459 99.6 1.130 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE! Data for burning rate decreased by 3% relative to nominal value: -Ba 102 62.00 2513 3786 57246 7490 97.9 1.170 ! Near Maximum ! | |||
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Mike, since I had everything set up, I figured I would run one more sim for you. If for what ever reason the rifle doesn't like Varget, it could give you a few other options. Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders. Matching Maximum Pressure: 61600 psi, or 424 MPa or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 108 % These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window. C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations. USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON ! 4 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 50%. These powders have been skipped. Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time % Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms --------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Alliant Reloder-17 102.2 67.3 4.36 2653 99.3 61600 8163 1.115 ! Near Maximum ! Vihtavuori N550 107.7 69.1 4.48 2648 98.5 61600 8362 1.131 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon H414 105.3 69.9 4.53 2646 96.2 61600 8417 1.123 ! Near Maximum ! Winchester 760 105.3 69.9 4.53 2646 96.2 61600 8417 1.123 ! Near Maximum ! Ramshot BigGame 103.6 67.1 4.35 2638 99.5 61600 8019 1.127 ! Near Maximum ! SNPE Vectan SP 11 103.7 67.2 4.36 2637 99.5 61600 8008 1.127 ! Near Maximum ! IMR 4895 99.7 62.6 4.06 2620 99.6 61600 7911 1.142 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon BL-C2 95.1 65.2 4.22 2612 99.9 61600 7750 1.143 ! Near Maximum ! Norma 203B 101.0 63.4 4.11 2609 99.5 61600 7818 1.144 ! Near Maximum ! Norma 203 old 102.6 65.1 4.22 2608 99.9 61600 7729 1.150 ! Near Maximum ! Raufoss RA11 100.5 63.1 4.09 2608 99.2 61600 7853 1.144 ! Near Maximum ! Alliant Reloder-15 100.5 63.1 4.09 2608 99.2 61600 7853 1.144 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP11 ~approximation 100.5 63.1 4.09 2608 99.2 61600 7853 1.144 ! Near Maximum ! Winchester 748 92.6 62.6 4.05 2608 100.0 61600 7445 1.135 ! Near Maximum ! Rottweil R903 104.9 65.2 4.22 2600 99.8 61600 7651 1.151 ! Near Maximum ! IMR 3031 100.4 58.9 3.82 2597 100.0 61600 7012 1.140 ! Near Maximum ! IMR 4320 102.6 63.4 4.11 2594 99.4 61600 7566 1.127 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon H4895 96.9 60.8 3.94 2594 99.8 61600 7630 1.145 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon H380 101.8 65.3 4.23 2593 98.3 61600 7881 1.147 ! Near Maximum ! Somchem S355 104.8 64.4 4.17 2592 99.7 61600 7653 1.150 ! Near Maximum ! ADI AR 2206H 97.2 61.1 3.96 2589 99.5 61600 7657 1.145 ! Near Maximum ! SNPE Vectan SP 9 97.9 63.5 4.11 2585 99.5 61600 7606 1.140 ! Near Maximum ! PB Clermont PCL 516 98.0 65.6 4.25 2584 98.2 61600 7779 1.142 ! Near Maximum ! Lovex D073.6 97.3 63.0 4.08 2583 100.0 61600 7213 1.156 ! Near Maximum ! Accurate 2520 97.3 63.0 4.08 2583 100.0 61600 7213 1.156 ! Near Maximum ! Accurate 4064 107.0 62.8 4.07 2583 100.0 61600 7187 1.172 ! Near Maximum ! PB Clermont PCL 507 94.3 61.8 4.00 2578 99.9 61600 7408 1.144 ! Near Maximum ! Ramshot TAC 91.7 61.7 4.00 2578 99.9 61600 7391 1.144 ! Near Maximum ! Somchem S321 92.5 62.5 4.05 2577 100.0 61600 7432 1.149 ! Near Maximum ! Norma URP 108.0 67.1 4.35 2577 97.9 56119 8092 1.166 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP19 ~approximation 108.0 67.1 4.35 2576 97.9 56067 8088 1.166 ! Near Maximum ! Ramshot Hunter 108.0 70.0 4.54 2572 95.9 55650 8262 1.165 ! Near Maximum ! Lovex S062 101.5 62.0 4.02 2570 99.9 61600 7339 1.153 ! Near Maximum ! Somchem S341 96.1 64.9 4.21 2569 99.4 61600 7399 1.142 ! Near Maximum ! ADI AR 2208 102.6 62.5 4.05 2568 99.1 61600 7537 1.139 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon VARGET 103.0 62.5 4.05 2568 99.1 61600 7537 1.139 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP7 NT ~approximation 103.2 65.4 4.24 2568 96.4 61600 7651 1.127 ! Near Maximum ! Vihtavuori N540 100.0 63.5 4.11 2567 100.0 61600 7195 1.147 ! Near Maximum ! Vihtavuori N530 93.4 59.0 3.82 2567 99.9 61600 7299 1.145 ! Near Maximum ! Norma 204 108.0 70.0 4.54 2565 92.8 58813 8077 1.146 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon H335 88.1 60.4 3.91 2565 100.0 61600 7051 1.145 ! Near Maximum ! SNPE Vectan SP 7 95.9 64.6 4.19 2562 98.1 61600 7576 1.154 ! Near Maximum ! Lovex S065 108.0 66.3 4.30 2562 97.4 61286 7720 1.155 ! Near Maximum ! Norma 202 97.7 60.3 3.91 2562 100.0 61600 7032 1.151 ! Near Maximum ! Accurate 2495 99.4 59.0 3.82 2561 100.0 61600 6859 1.180 ! Near Maximum ! IMR 4064 103.7 61.5 3.98 2560 99.2 61600 7389 1.144 ! Near Maximum ! SNPE Vectan SP 10 87.8 58.9 3.81 2560 100.0 61600 7009 1.149 ! Near Maximum ! IMR 8208 XBR 95.5 60.0 3.89 2560 99.9 61600 7228 1.146 ! Near Maximum ! PB Clermont PCL 508 (PCL223) 87.7 59.0 3.82 2559 100.0 61600 7000 1.149 ! Near Maximum ! Norma 201 94.1 60.3 3.91 2557 99.9 61600 7295 1.160 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP3 NT ~approximation 105.3 65.7 4.25 2557 97.4 61600 7540 1.136 ! Near Maximum ! ADI AR 2219 87.7 56.9 3.69 2553 100.0 61600 6800 1.144 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon H322 93.3 56.9 3.69 2553 100.0 61600 6800 1.144 ! Near Maximum ! Rottweil R907 106.5 65.7 4.25 2551 95.4 61600 7719 1.152 ! Near Maximum ! IMR 4007 SSC 103.2 65.7 4.26 2550 95.4 61600 7713 1.153 ! Near Maximum ! Rottweil R902 100.1 60.6 3.93 2549 99.9 61600 7200 1.164 ! Near Maximum ! Ramshot X-Terminator 86.0 57.8 3.75 2547 100.0 61600 6832 1.151 ! Near Maximum ! Accurate 2460 91.1 61.4 3.98 2546 100.0 61600 7035 1.167 ! Near Maximum ! Lovex D073.5 91.1 61.4 3.98 2546 100.0 61600 7035 1.167 ! Near Maximum ! Lovex S070 108.0 67.1 4.35 2544 95.8 58654 7850 1.172 ! Near Maximum ! Somchem S365 108.0 67.4 4.37 2541 99.6 50449 7957 1.201 Nitrochemie A/S 0300 84.8 54.7 3.54 2539 100.0 61600 6531 1.153 ! Near Maximum ! Vihtavuori N135 106.5 60.6 3.93 2538 100.0 61600 6561 1.155 ! Near Maximum ! Vihtavuori N140 99.8 61.5 3.98 2538 100.0 61600 6755 1.150 ! Near Maximum ! Accurate 2230 89.6 60.3 3.91 2535 100.0 61600 6925 1.165 ! Near Maximum ! Lovex D073.4 89.6 60.3 3.91 2535 100.0 61600 6925 1.165 ! Near Maximum ! Rottweil R901 96.1 57.3 3.71 2534 100.0 61600 6890 1.177 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP2 NT ~approximation 96.7 60.2 3.90 2533 99.7 61600 7096 1.147 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP4 NT ~approximation 108.0 68.8 4.46 2531 94.7 56593 7874 1.172 ! Near Maximum ! ADI AR 2210 88.9 57.6 3.73 2528 100.0 61600 6907 1.152 ! Near Maximum ! Alliant Reloder-12 93.2 59.7 3.87 2527 100.0 61600 6652 1.151 ! Near Maximum ! Lovex S060 97.4 59.5 3.86 2524 99.5 61600 7069 1.150 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon Benchmark 94.6 58.5 3.79 2522 100.0 61600 6876 1.153 ! Near Maximum ! ADI BM2 87.1 58.2 3.77 2521 100.0 61600 6857 1.153 ! Near Maximum ! IMR 4350 108.0 67.4 4.37 2519 94.5 57391 7668 1.168 ! Near Maximum ! ADI AR 2206 96.7 60.1 3.89 2516 99.7 61600 6968 1.151 ! Near Maximum ! Accurate 2200 86.3 55.0 3.57 2514 100.0 61600 6666 1.152 ! Near Maximum ! Vihtavuori N150 108.0 64.0 4.15 2513 99.9 57863 7127 1.173 ! Near Maximum ! Alliant Reloder-10x 90.7 53.7 3.48 2507 100.0 61600 6366 1.166 ! Near Maximum ! SF-033 fl 87.2 56.0 3.63 2503 100.0 61600 6183 1.171 ! Near Maximum ! Accurate 2700 104.1 67.5 4.37 2499 94.9 61600 7223 1.161 ! Near Maximum ! Accurate 2015 92.2 56.0 3.63 2498 100.0 61600 6305 1.171 ! Near Maximum ! Somchem S335 97.5 59.9 3.88 2497 100.0 61600 6483 1.166 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP1 NT ~approximation 87.2 53.1 3.44 2482 100.0 61600 6274 1.149 ! Near Maximum ! Norma 200 82.0 53.3 3.45 2482 100.0 61600 6180 1.183 ! Near Maximum ! Vihtavuori N133 99.3 57.1 3.70 2478 100.0 61600 6124 1.159 ! Near Maximum ! Accurate 1680 76.9 51.9 3.36 2478 100.0 61600 6202 1.157 ! Near Maximum ! Raufoss RA4 108.0 67.8 4.39 2477 91.2 52843 7798 1.196 Bofors RP4 ~approximation 108.0 67.8 4.39 2477 91.2 52843 7798 1.196 Hodgdon H4350 108.0 66.3 4.30 2473 93.6 54158 7531 1.195 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon H4198 87.8 51.8 3.35 2471 100.0 61600 6139 1.152 ! Near Maximum ! Accurate 4350 108.0 64.9 4.20 2467 96.6 49048 7834 1.239 IMR 4198 90.3 50.9 3.30 2465 100.0 61600 5915 1.153 ! Near Maximum ! | |||
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AS, You Da Man!!!! Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue. What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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