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Just started loading for the 22-250 with H380. This is my first experience with ball powder. I noticed that some recommend using a magnum primer, as the ball powder is harder to ignite.

Is there a consensus on this, or should I just back the charge down a little and try some?
 
Posts: 291 | Location: Gettysburg, PA | Registered: 03 August 2005Reply With Quote
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I don't know about a consensus, but I'd try it both ways. If you've already established a load with regular primers, back it down and try 'em.


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H-380 will ignite fine w/ standard LR primers. Try them both and see if one shoots better than the other.
 
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I asked the same question a few months ago.....I assure you that there is no concensus.

I felt good about the replies I got.....and no longer consider the magnum primer for ball powders to be anything but poppycock.


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Posts: 28849 | Location: western Nebraska | Registered: 27 May 2003Reply With Quote
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I probably shoot as much ball powder as anything else. I used it in temps as high as over a hundred and below 10 degrees. I've never had a problem with one of those loads. I've never used Magnum primers. My guess would be a conservative 5000 plus rounds.

But I would suggest if the documentation for your load says use primer X that is what I'd use. Other words you’re dealing with a lot of unknowns. Your Max and Min charges could change and you wouldn't have a clue where you stand if you're a loader that doesn't follow good reloading procedures and drop down and work to Max. That's my two cents worth.
 
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i worked up loads with W760 and H414 for 257 robts (speer manual says use mag primer)and with these powders the load density for this case is not very high, i got hang fires(not good)because i didnt use mag primers so if it calls for mag primers with a certain powder i would use them.

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Posts: 76 | Location: minnesota | Registered: 02 May 2002Reply With Quote
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I've had similar experiences to Willow's. Working up relatively light loads in big case cartridges, using standard lg. rifle primers has resulted in hangfires which went away when I switched to magnum.
 
Posts: 953 | Location: Florida | Registered: 17 March 2005Reply With Quote
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Folks, let's keep in mind he's working with a 22-250. Not a "big case". Smiler For my 338/378 and H-870, yes I use Mag primers. But that's with a 132 gr. charge, not a 35 gr. charge. Smiler

I'm almost wondering if you guys didn't get your hands on some bad primers.
 
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Fire 10 shots with a magnum primer over the chronograph and then 10 shots with a standard primer. Calculate the standard deviations for the 10 shots (not 3 shots or 5 shots as is the popular incorrect practice). Go with whichever primer gives the lowest standard deviation.
 
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The Accuracy of your rifle will tell you whether you should use them or not. Different primers give different accuracy.

If you are below MAX charges by 10% I would try both w/ Magnum and LR primers and see which gives the best group.

I personally don't feel the Mag Primers are needed w/ Ball powders unless it's in a big 60+ grain cases.

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Posts: 4146 | Location: North Louisiana | Registered: 18 February 2004Reply With Quote
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Ball powder tends to burn dirty unless you use a Mag Rifle primer. I use alot of W760 in the 22-250 and 300 WSM and both burn cleaner with WLRM or Fed 215 primers.


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