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| I don't know about a consensus, but I'd try it both ways. If you've already established a load with regular primers, back it down and try 'em. Jon Larsson - Hunter - Shooter - Reloader - Mostly in that order... |
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| H-380 will ignite fine w/ standard LR primers. Try them both and see if one shoots better than the other. |
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| I asked the same question a few months ago.....I assure you that there is no concensus. I felt good about the replies I got.....and no longer consider the magnum primer for ball powders to be anything but poppycock.
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| Posts: 28849 | Location: western Nebraska | Registered: 27 May 2003 | 
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| I probably shoot as much ball powder as anything else. I used it in temps as high as over a hundred and below 10 degrees. I've never had a problem with one of those loads. I've never used Magnum primers. My guess would be a conservative 5000 plus rounds.
But I would suggest if the documentation for your load says use primer X that is what I'd use. Other words you’re dealing with a lot of unknowns. Your Max and Min charges could change and you wouldn't have a clue where you stand if you're a loader that doesn't follow good reloading procedures and drop down and work to Max. That's my two cents worth. |
| Posts: 1679 | Location: Renton, WA. | Registered: 16 December 2005 | 
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| i worked up loads with W760 and H414 for 257 robts (speer manual says use mag primer)and with these powders the load density for this case is not very high, i got hang fires(not good)because i didnt use mag primers so if it calls for mag primers with a certain powder i would use them.
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| Posts: 76 | Location: minnesota | Registered: 02 May 2002 | 
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| I've had similar experiences to Willow's. Working up relatively light loads in big case cartridges, using standard lg. rifle primers has resulted in hangfires which went away when I switched to magnum. |
| Posts: 953 | Location: Florida | Registered: 17 March 2005 | 
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| Folks, let's keep in mind he's working with a 22-250. Not a "big case".  For my 338/378 and H-870, yes I use Mag primers. But that's with a 132 gr. charge, not a 35 gr. charge.  I'm almost wondering if you guys didn't get your hands on some bad primers. |
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| Fire 10 shots with a magnum primer over the chronograph and then 10 shots with a standard primer. Calculate the standard deviations for the 10 shots (not 3 shots or 5 shots as is the popular incorrect practice). Go with whichever primer gives the lowest standard deviation. |
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| Ball powder tends to burn dirty unless you use a Mag Rifle primer. I use alot of W760 in the 22-250 and 300 WSM and both burn cleaner with WLRM or Fed 215 primers.
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| Posts: 523 | Location: North Pole, Alaska | Registered: 26 January 2003 | 
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