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MILLER - Welcome to the forum. A great bunch of guys, regardless of how it may appear at times (see the first few pages of the "MatchKing not hunting bullet" thread). With your 2.007" Lapua brass, just set your trimmer to take the minimum amount off each of the cases to get them all squared up and equal length, and go ahead and fire away. They might end up being 2.005", or whatever, but that doesn't matter as long as they're the same. You just won't have to trim again as quickly as you might. Last, that 2.015" number in the vv manual doesn't sound right. 2.015" is the MAX length for a 308 case, TRIM TO length should be 2.005". Better double check that number. I'm curious as to the average weight of the Lapua brass. What do they figure out to? R-WEST ------------------ | |||
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MILLER - First off - welcome to the forum. AR is THE place for shooters and hunters. Not to worry about your brass being on the shortish side. Go ahead and prep the brass necks, size them, load them, and shoot them. After your first shooting, clean them, resize them, and then measure. Depending upon how hot your load may be, you may find some lengthening of the brass. You may wish to trim all your brass to the same length and then weight them and sort them into lots of 20 or so. If you are loading for accuracy, this will keep case deminsions more uniform. You will find LAPUA brass to be some of the most uniform cases around. | |||
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MILLER, I use Lapua brass with Lapua bullet 168 gr BTHP for my match loads in .308 Win. This with no problems. The Lapua case are very strong and durable, don't wory about case lenght, the are perfect. In all my reloading books (Honardy, Accurate,...) Max lenght case is 2.015" As you case are 2.007" they have good lenght : ------------------ | |||
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Size them first and then check the length...then trim them to the length of the shortest one or if most of the necks are the same length use the shorter ones for fouling shots until their length grows a little. | |||
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Justa a question here. Why would you full length size brand new brass? Maybe there is something that I am missing, but it would seem that brand new high quality brass would fit a chamber well enough that you could fire the ammunition just fine unless you are shooting a match tolerance rifle, in which case you should be turning the necks and fire forming the new brass in any event. | ||
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Bruce, I agree with you, but DB Bill is also correct from a tech standpoint...for hunting purposes I don't bother, about all I want to do is round out the necks. Guess there is more one way to skin a cat. ------------------ | |||
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Even high quality brass gets banged around a good bit during the manufacturing process. It is not absolutely necessary to FL resize, but, it helps to uniform and dewrinkle new brass. It�s a waste of time (and embarrassing) to load new brass only to find the neck is out of round and becomes stuck in your chamber. It only takes an extra few minutes to run your brass through the resizer - are you really THAT busy? If you are, you should stick with factory loads. Look, some folks just stuff um and shoot um. Some of us a little more anal about reloading. Having shot competitive paper punching for quite a few years, I still splash Holy Water on my press before I begin reloading each time. Everything helps | |||
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Hi Miller, Welcome aboard! Although your manuals show SAAMI specs, you are only off by a minute amount. The guys who posted earlier share the normal recommended practices associated with the anomaly you have given [in terms of constraints]. This brand name is top of the line [next to Norma of course if one desires to start a flame war ] and will perform [if only] because of its consistency. The key factors for you to focus on is (1) uniform & consistent case lengths; (2) your strategy in seating. Will you load to a specified column overall length (C.O.L.) or will you seat especially to your own chambers land and grooves (aka Overall Length)? If you are really that concerned, you can optionally invest in some Wilson full length dies if you want to spend money needlessly. You might gain back that .008, although you might loose some range time while you wait. Good shooting! ------------------ Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. | |||
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Hi,Miller, Whatdaya know. Me too. I just made 50 22-243's out of a box of 308 Lapua just to see how they would work and how uniform they were. Nice stuff. Necks were within a half thou, weight 1 gr and trimmed out to 2.010 after all the squeezing and squashing. Out of the other 50 308's the shortest was 2.003 so I trimmed to 2.000 and said good night. I have my eye on some Norma 243 to make into some more 22-243 just to see how good Norma is also. Enjoy your excellent brass. | ||
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