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I was just trying to resize some brass and broke my decapping pin and shaft. I guess I had it set to low which I don't understand why because I had it set a while ago reloading this particular cartrige. My question is do I even need a decapping pin when I am resizing new brass? Greg | ||
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nope...you dont...I am guessing rcbs...if u call them they will send you a bag of em Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue. What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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Possibly the decapping stem (rod) became loose and therefore off center. Another cause which I have encountered with inferior brass is off center flash holes! Can't punch the head without ending the pin. It's worth having the decapping ability, regardless of the new brass idea Member NRA, SCI- Life #358 28+ years now! DRSS, double owner-shooter since 1983, O/U .30-06 Browning Continental set. | |||
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Yes it is a RCBS and I know there customer service is great but I am reloading for a prairie dog shoot this Thursday and it won't get here that fast. But doesn't the shaft have the expander ball on to expend the neck and I have to have that don't I?? Greg | |||
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Yes you need to expand. Do you have another die of the same caliber? Maybe a 223 or 220 Swift and you`re loading a 22-250? If so can you trade stems, or maybe just start the sized case in the other die just enough to expand the neck? ------------------------------------ The trouble with the Internet is that it's replacing masturbation as a leisure activity. ~Patrick Murray "Why shouldn`t truth be stranger then fiction? Fiction after all has to make sense." (Samual Clemens) "Saepe errans, numquam dubitans --Frequently in error, never in doubt". | |||
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My past experience (I know, another oxymoron ) is to nip off the head of a proper diameter nail and substitute it for the the decapping pin. May need to dress the end a little flatter than left by the side cutter. Regards, WE | |||
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No you do not need a decapping pin on new brass. The expander ball will still work without the pin. The pin is only necessary to de-prime. | |||
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M16 I think he damaged both "I was just trying to resize some brass and broke my decapping pin and shaft" I agree he doesn`t need to use the pin on new brass but he does need the expander. ------------------------------------ The trouble with the Internet is that it's replacing masturbation as a leisure activity. ~Patrick Murray "Why shouldn`t truth be stranger then fiction? Fiction after all has to make sense." (Samual Clemens) "Saepe errans, numquam dubitans --Frequently in error, never in doubt". | |||
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My mistake. How in the hell do you break the shaft? | |||
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You bend the pin, which bends the shaft, and then you try to straighten the shaft, usually with the handy pair of slip joint pliers on the bench... uuhhhh, I think that's how I read somewhere that's how it happens.... for every hour in front of the computer you should have 3 hours outside | |||
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Oh, one more thing- The lee universal decappers are such a bargain at $3, get one for 223 and for 30. They are a tiny bit tedious to use but definately better than the next thing whenever you break your last decapping pin on a friday night. Actually, when I made my 20 tactical sizing die I had good enough tension that I didn't need an expander ball so I just left it at that and turned down the shaft of the decapper. I just chucked it in the drill press and used sandpaper on it until it fit the case mouth and then cold blued it. for every hour in front of the computer you should have 3 hours outside | |||
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Of all the bad things that have happend to me in over 50 years of reloadong I have never broken a decapping pin. The last twenty years or so, none of my dies have decapping pins. The first thing I do with a new die is remove the pin. I have a little Lee press with a lee universal decapping die dedicated to that job. When resizing I run a case up into the die then I back the expander ball up till it just touches the inside of the neck. That way the expander engages the neck while the neck is still in the die neck, helps on minimizing runout. Works for me. Lyle "I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. I would remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue." Barry M Goldwater. | |||
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albertacoyote, if your desperate you may be able to reload new cases by just shoving a bullet in the case with out touching the neck. And, YUMAN, half your luck. I can break pins any day. For instance, I just broke a Lee one before I got to use it. Easy, just set the die just above the shell holder, leave the ram up and reef the turret around, and snap. John L. | |||
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